Talk:History and philosophy of xenharmonic music - Revision history

BudjarnLambeth: Mark as high priority

2025-10-09T01:01:18Z

Mark as high priority

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			{{High priority}}

	== Co-signers/endorsements idea ==		== Co-signers/endorsements idea ==

BudjarnLambeth: /* Proofreading */ reply

2025-10-08T22:04:40Z

Proofreading: reply

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	== Proofreading ==		== Proofreading ==

	In some quoted text from Ivor Darreq's document in Clarifying the definition of xenharmonic music, I found a few typos, but since they are in quoted text from sources that I do not have, I do not know whether they were in the original source or are transcription errors that should be corrected. I ran the quoted text through through QuillBot to see if I had missed anything, and it found a few more apparent typos.		In some quoted text from Ivor Darreq's document in Clarifying the definition of xenharmonic music, I found a few typos, but since they are in quoted text from sources that I do not have, I do not know whether they were in the original source or are transcription errors that should be corrected. I ran the quoted text through through QuillBot to see if I had missed anything, and it found a few more apparent typos.

	* "12 note forming a series of fifths, out of 53 or 41 or 29?" — seems that this should be "12 notes forming a series of fifths, out of 53 or 41 or 29?"		* "12 note forming a series of fifths, out of 53 or 41 or 29?" — seems that this should be "12 notes forming a series of fifths, out of 53 or 41 or 29?"
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	Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|talk]]) 06:14, 8 October 2025 (UTC)		Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|talk]]) 06:14, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

			: Thank you for spotting these errors. I have corrected all the examples you listed:)

			: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 22:04, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Proofreading */ new section

2025-10-08T06:14:55Z

Proofreading: new section

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	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 04:31, 27 September 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 04:31, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

			== Proofreading ==

			In some quoted text from Ivor Darreq's document in Clarifying the definition of xenharmonic music, I found a few typos, but since they are in quoted text from sources that I do not have, I do not know whether they were in the original source or are transcription errors that should be corrected. I ran the quoted text through through QuillBot to see if I had missed anything, and it found a few more apparent typos.

			* "12 note forming a series of fifths, out of 53 or 41 or 29?" — seems that this should be "12 notes forming a series of fifths, out of 53 or 41 or 29?"
			* "That is,a tuning" — seems that this should be "That is, a tuning".
			* "The only exception would be where so few just pitches are used that no interval noticeably different in a real performance of apiece of music" — seems that this should be "The only exception would be where so few just pitches are used that no interval noticeably different in a real performance of a piece of music".
			* "I many cases" — seems that this should be "In many cases".
			* "I am a composer and I do not want everything I composer or improvise" — seems that this should be "I am a composer and I do not want everything I compose or improvise".
			* "It is too late for such persons the stop the Xenharmonic movement" — seems that this should be "It is too late for such persons to stop the Xenharmonic movement".

			Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio\|talk]]) 06:14, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: BudjarnLambeth moved page User talk:Nick Vuci/Xenharmonics to Talk:History and philosophy of xenharmonic music: On 28 Sep, after a few days of discussion in a thread, 7 of 9 voters in the wiki channel of the XA Discord voted that if the main page were changed to make it more clear that non-xen tuning theory was also allowed on the wiki, that then this page should be moved to main space. The change to the main page has now happened, so this page is now ready for main space.

2025-10-08T03:46:43Z

BudjarnLambeth moved page User talk:Nick Vuci/Xenharmonics to Talk:History and philosophy of xenharmonic music: On 28 Sep, after a few days of discussion in a thread, 7 of 9 voters in the wiki channel of the XA Discord voted that if the main page were changed to make it more clear that non-xen tuning theory was also allowed on the wiki, that then this page should be moved to main space. The change to the main page has now happened, so this page is now ready for main space.

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BudjarnLambeth: /* If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space */

2025-09-27T04:31:27Z

If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space

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	== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==		== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==
	If we expand the first line of the wiki main page to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]] and [[microtonal music]], including [[xenharmonic]] ~~tunings~~ as well as [[historical ~~temperaments~~]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."		If we expand the first line of the ''wiki's main page'' to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]] and [[microtonal music]], including [[xenharmonic music]] as well as [[historical tunings]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."

	Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign this too.		Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign this too.

	(The wording of my addition is thanks to Lériendil.)		(The wording of my addition is thanks to Lériendil with edits from Fredg999.)

	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 04:31, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: /* If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space */

2025-09-27T02:56:19Z

If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space

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	== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==		== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==
	If we expand the first line of the wiki main page to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]] and [[microtonal music]], including [[xenharmonic]] tunings as well as [[historical temperaments]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."		If we expand the first line of the wiki main page to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]] and [[microtonal music]], including [[xenharmonic]] tunings as well as [[historical temperaments]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."

	Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign it.		Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign this too.

			(The wording of my addition is thanks to Lériendil.)

	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: /* If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space */

2025-09-27T02:53:56Z

If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space

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	== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==		== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==
	If we expand the first line of the wiki main page to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about musical tuning. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, theory, math and practice. ~~This wiki covers both xenharmony and also broader tuning theory in general~~".		If we expand the first line of the wiki main page to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]] and [[microtonal music]], including [[xenharmonic]] tunings as well as [[historical temperaments]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."

	Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign it.		Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign it.

	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: Will support moving this to main space if we add 1 sentence to the wiki main page

2025-09-27T02:45:53Z

Will support moving this to main space if we add 1 sentence to the wiki main page

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	The usage of "xenharmonics" varies quite a bit from what Nick has specified. --[[User:VectorGraphics\|VectorGraphics]] ([[User talk:VectorGraphics\|talk]]) 22:32, 12 April 2025 (UTC)		The usage of "xenharmonics" varies quite a bit from what Nick has specified. --[[User:VectorGraphics\|VectorGraphics]] ([[User talk:VectorGraphics\|talk]]) 22:32, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

	== ~~Proposal~~ to ~~add~~ to ~~the TLDR section~~ ==		== If we do this then I'd be happy for this to be moved to main space ==
	~~@Nick Vuci, would you be happy to add this or something like it to~~ the ~~TLDR or some other prominent part~~ of the page?		If we expand the first line of the wiki main page to say to say "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about musical tuning. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, theory, math and practice. This wiki covers both xenharmony and also broader tuning theory in general".

	"		Then I would be happy for this article to be moved to main space in its current state without any changes, and I would be happy to sign it.

	~~Is it still okay to discuss - on the wiki, the Facebook, or the Discord - music that is microtonal, but not xenharmonic?~~		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 02:45, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

	~~: '''Yes''', while the primary focus of the Xenharmonic Alliance is xenharmonic music, discussion and documentation of any non-12edo tuning, xen or not, is welcome.~~
	"

	If something like this is added, I would be happy to co-sign. I just want it to be made clear that discussion of any non-12 tunings in general is still welcome in XA spaces, not only xenharmonic tunings.

	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: /* Proposal to add to the TLDR section */

2025-09-26T23:56:00Z

Proposal to add to the TLDR section

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	If something like this is added, I would be happy to co-sign. I just want it to be made clear that discussion of any non-12 tunings in general is still welcome in XA spaces, not only xenharmonic ~~ones~~.		If something like this is added, I would be happy to co-sign. I just want it to be made clear that discussion of any non-12 tunings in general is still welcome in XA spaces, not only xenharmonic tunings.

	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 September 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: /* Proposal to add to the TLDR section */

2025-09-26T23:39:11Z

Proposal to add to the TLDR section

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	: '''Yes''', while the primary focus of the Xenharmonic Alliance is xenharmonic music, discussion and documentation of any non-12edo tuning, xen or not, is welcome.		: '''Yes''', while the primary focus of the Xenharmonic Alliance is xenharmonic music, discussion and documentation of any non-12edo tuning, xen or not, is welcome.
	"		"

			If something like this is added, I would be happy to co-sign. I just want it to be made clear that discussion of any non-12 tunings in general is still welcome in XA spaces, not only xenharmonic ones.

	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 September 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 23:36, 26 September 2025 (UTC)