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Overthink: /* Pointlessly small MOS scales */ no deletions

2025-11-23T17:27:42Z

Pointlessly small MOS scales: no deletions

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	I would personally also delete [[Cotoneum17]] and possibly even [[Cotoneum29]]. Near-pythagorean temperament MOS scales with too few notes to contain much in higher limits are pointless, and one may as well just use pythagorean tuning instead, which has MOS pages up to 53. Also scales with more notes should be added, like [[Garibaldi29]] and [[Garibaldi41]]. There are also temperaments like [[harry]] where smaller MOS scales need to be added, like [[Harry44]] and possibly also [[Harry30]]. --[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 20:23, 22 November 2025 (UTC)		I would personally also delete [[Cotoneum17]] and possibly even [[Cotoneum29]]. Near-pythagorean temperament MOS scales with too few notes to contain much in higher limits are pointless, and one may as well just use pythagorean tuning instead, which has MOS pages up to 53. Also scales with more notes should be added, like [[Garibaldi29]] and [[Garibaldi41]]. There are also temperaments like [[harry]] where smaller MOS scales need to be added, like [[Harry44]] and possibly also [[Harry30]]. --[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 20:23, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

			: Now that I think of it, I'm actually against the deletions, though I definitely support adding Garibaldi29 and Garibaldi41. I'm not sure about Harry44 and Harry30. --[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 17:27, 23 November 2025 (UTC)

Overthink: /* Pointlessly small MOS scales */ added more

2025-11-22T20:23:19Z

Pointlessly small MOS scales: added more

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	There are pages for the 5- and 7-note [[MOS]]es, but they hardly contain 5- and 7-limit consonances besides [[7/5]] occuring once in the 7-note MOS. The 12-note MOS contains some simple ratios of 5, but even it lacks most ratios of 7. This issue is also present in [[cotoneum]], where the 5-, 7-, and 12-note MOSes have pages with their respective scala files, but they all hardly contain anything past 3-limit, and a simple interval of 5 is first found in the 41-note MOS, and it's just 7/5. Properly utilizing prime [[5/1\|5]] in cotoneum requires a MOS of at least 53, and hardly anything besides 2.3.7.11 is found in MOSes up to 41. The 2.3.7.11 restriction of cotoneum is [[gary]], which should be considered seperately due to its higher accuracy and lower complexity. I believe it would be best to delete garibaldi MOS pages up to 7 notes, and cotoneum MOS pages up to 12 notes.--[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 20:12, 22 November 2025 (UTC)		There are pages for the 5- and 7-note [[MOS]]es, but they hardly contain 5- and 7-limit consonances besides [[7/5]] occuring once in the 7-note MOS. The 12-note MOS contains some simple ratios of 5, but even it lacks most ratios of 7. This issue is also present in [[cotoneum]], where the 5-, 7-, and 12-note MOSes have pages with their respective scala files, but they all hardly contain anything past 3-limit, and a simple interval of 5 is first found in the 41-note MOS, and it's just 7/5. Properly utilizing prime [[5/1\|5]] in cotoneum requires a MOS of at least 53, and hardly anything besides 2.3.7.11 is found in MOSes up to 41. The 2.3.7.11 restriction of cotoneum is [[gary]], which should be considered seperately due to its higher accuracy and lower complexity. I believe it would be best to delete garibaldi MOS pages up to 7 notes, and cotoneum MOS pages up to 12 notes.--[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 20:12, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

			I would personally also delete [[Cotoneum17]] and possibly even [[Cotoneum29]]. Near-pythagorean temperament MOS scales with too few notes to contain much in higher limits are pointless, and one may as well just use pythagorean tuning instead, which has MOS pages up to 53. Also scales with more notes should be added, like [[Garibaldi29]] and [[Garibaldi41]]. There are also temperaments like [[harry]] where smaller MOS scales need to be added, like [[Harry44]] and possibly also [[Harry30]]. --[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 20:23, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Overthink: /* Pointlessly small MOS scales */ new section

2025-11-22T20:12:04Z

Pointlessly small MOS scales: new section

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== Pointlessly small MOS scales ==

There are pages for the 5- and 7-note [[MOS]]es, but they hardly contain 5- and 7-limit consonances besides [[7/5]] occuring once in the 7-note MOS. The 12-note MOS contains some simple ratios of 5, but even it lacks most ratios of 7. This issue is also present in [[cotoneum]], where the 5-, 7-, and 12-note MOSes have pages with their respective scala files, but they all hardly contain anything past 3-limit, and a simple interval of 5 is first found in the 41-note MOS, and it's just 7/5. Properly utilizing prime [[5/1|5]] in cotoneum requires a MOS of at least 53, and hardly anything besides 2.3.7.11 is found in MOSes up to 41. The 2.3.7.11 restriction of cotoneum is [[gary]], which should be considered seperately due to its higher accuracy and lower complexity. I believe it would be best to delete garibaldi MOS pages up to 7 notes, and cotoneum MOS pages up to 12 notes.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 20:12, 22 November 2025 (UTC)