Talk:Douglas Blumeyer's RTT How-To - Revision history

Cmloegcmluin: /* "regular" */

2021-12-31T04:50:35Z

"regular"

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	- [[User:Sintel\|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel\|talk]]) 21:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)		- [[User:Sintel\|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel\|talk]]) 21:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

			: Interesting. Back in April I asked for the meaning of the "regular" in RTT and I got various answers. From Keenan Pepper, a couple:

			: 'It's regular because wherever two tempered intervals represent the same JI interval, they are exactly the same size. This means the temperament is an abelian group and the mapping is a morphism.'

			: 'Once a tuning of each generator is provided the tuning of any interval can be computed as an integer linear combination of generator tunings. This property that all intervals are linear combinations of the generators is in fact what makes a temperament "regular".'

			: Then, from Paul Erlich:

			: 'Every generator always appears in (close enough to) the same size; and every instance of a prime is arrived at via generators in EXACTLY the same way.'

			: to which Keenan replied:

			: 'Oh, this is interesting because it's slightly different from the definition I gave. I suppose what I defined could be called a "regular tuning of a regular temperament". An example that passes your definition but not mine is a well-temperament of 12edo. The generators are slightly different sizes, but the mapping is still regular (it's only the realization in tuning that is irregular).'

			: And then Mike Battaglia said:

			: 'Keenan Pepper I don't think the tunings have to be the same size; rather the mapping has to be the same. Graham Breed and I were just talking about this'

			: and Paul felt that was the same thing as his definition.

			: So maybe it's not a mathematical term after all. Probably this tidbit could stand to be updated. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 04:50, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Sintel: /* "regular" */ new section

2021-12-30T21:11:54Z

"regular": new section

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	::::: Thanks for that. I tried using this star instead and it does seem to still work on my mobile device. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 17:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)		::::: Thanks for that. I tried using this star instead and it does seem to still work on my mobile device. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 17:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

			== "regular" ==

			The article says:

			> We’ve made it to a critical point here: we are now able to explain why RTT is called “regular” temperament theory. Regular here is a mathematical term, and I don’t have a straightforward definition of it for you, but it apparently refers to the fact that all intervals in the tuning are combinations of only these specified generators. So there you go.

			As far as i know, regular here isn't a mathematical term at all. (If I'm wrong please point me to the right definition!) It seems like it was chosen to mean "linear" but "linear temperament" already means something else.

			- [[User:Sintel\|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel\|talk]]) 21:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Cmloegcmluin: Cmloegcmluin moved page User talk:Cmloegcmluin/RTT How-To to Talk:Douglas Blumeyer's RTT How-To: time to stop blocking this and just get it out there

2021-10-15T23:39:58Z

Cmloegcmluin moved page User talk:Cmloegcmluin/RTT How-To to Talk:Douglas Blumeyer's RTT How-To: time to stop blocking this and just get it out there

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Cmloegcmluin: Cmloegcmluin moved page User talk:Cmloegcmluin/Sandbox to User talk:Cmloegcmluin/RTT How-To: I have since learned that I can have multiple User pages

2021-09-14T15:51:41Z

Cmloegcmluin moved page User talk:Cmloegcmluin/Sandbox to User talk:Cmloegcmluin/RTT How-To: I have since learned that I can have multiple User pages

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Cmloegcmluin: /* Unicode Black Star (U+2605) */

2021-05-21T17:01:15Z

Unicode Black Star (U+2605)

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	:::: Here is an update which might help you. I added two symbols ★ and ☆ to the ''Special characters'' → ''Symbols'' section of the the editing toolbar. Now you can just click/touch to enter them (it's likely that you need a browser refresh before, I used Ctrl+F5 for Windows/Firefox). --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 16:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)		:::: Here is an update which might help you. I added two symbols ★ and ☆ to the ''Special characters'' → ''Symbols'' section of the the editing toolbar. Now you can just click/touch to enter them (it's likely that you need a browser refresh before, I used Ctrl+F5 for Windows/Firefox). --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 16:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

			::::: Thanks for that. I tried using this star instead and it does seem to still work on my mobile device. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 17:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Unicode Black Star (U+2605) */ ★ and ☆ now available in: Special characters → Symbols

2021-05-21T16:04:30Z

Unicode Black Star (U+2605): ★ and ☆ now available in: Special characters → Symbols

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	::: Ah-ha, got it. Actually, copy-pasting ★ in was what I did initially, I believe, but it turned out not to be supported on my iPhone as well as whatever browser my first critic was using when he reviewed the page. So I took a guess at &#9733; and it seemed to fix the problem so I thought "good enough". I never noticed the ''Special characters'' tab before, actually, so thanks for pointing that out. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 20:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)		::: Ah-ha, got it. Actually, copy-pasting ★ in was what I did initially, I believe, but it turned out not to be supported on my iPhone as well as whatever browser my first critic was using when he reviewed the page. So I took a guess at &#9733; and it seemed to fix the problem so I thought "good enough". I never noticed the ''Special characters'' tab before, actually, so thanks for pointing that out. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 20:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

			:::: Here is an update which might help you. I added two symbols ★ and ☆ to the ''Special characters'' → ''Symbols'' section of the the editing toolbar. Now you can just click/touch to enter them (it's likely that you need a browser refresh before, I used Ctrl+F5 for Windows/Firefox). --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 16:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Cmloegcmluin at 20:52, 20 May 2021

2021-05-20T20:52:11Z

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	:: Sorry for the confusion. I referred to [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User:Cmloegcmluin/Sandbox&diff=next&oldid=70048 this edit of you] with the summary ''“hopefully superior solution for unicode stars”'' - these three star variants are technically equivalent, I'd tend to use the star character (★) itself via copy&paste, but your solution is maybe easier to type if the number is memorized. The best would be to include it into the ''Specials characters'' tab of the editing toolbar, here is a section ''Symbols'' that already contains things like <code>↔ ↑ ↓ ← →</code>... --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 20:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)		:: Sorry for the confusion. I referred to [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User:Cmloegcmluin/Sandbox&diff=next&oldid=70048 this edit of you] with the summary ''“hopefully superior solution for unicode stars”'' - these three star variants are technically equivalent, I'd tend to use the star character (★) itself via copy&paste, but your solution is maybe easier to type if the number is memorized. The best would be to include it into the ''Specials characters'' tab of the editing toolbar, here is a section ''Symbols'' that already contains things like <code>↔ ↑ ↓ ← →</code>... --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 20:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

			::: Ah-ha, got it. Actually, copy-pasting ★ in was what I did initially, I believe, but it turned out not to be supported on my iPhone as well as whatever browser my first critic was using when he reviewed the page. So I took a guess at &#9733; and it seemed to fix the problem so I thought "good enough". I never noticed the ''Special characters'' tab before, actually, so thanks for pointing that out. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 20:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Unicode Black Star (U+2605) */ re

2021-05-20T20:43:58Z

Unicode Black Star (U+2605): re

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	: Sorry, what do you mean? That I should use ★ instead of ★ for some reason? Or that my table is incorrect and every cell should have three stars? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 20:12, 20 May 2021 (UTC)		: Sorry, what do you mean? That I should use ★ instead of ★ for some reason? Or that my table is incorrect and every cell should have three stars? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 20:12, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

			:: Sorry for the confusion. I referred to [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User:Cmloegcmluin/Sandbox&diff=next&oldid=70048 this edit of you] with the summary ''“hopefully superior solution for unicode stars”'' - these three star variants are technically equivalent, I'd tend to use the star character (★) itself via copy&paste, but your solution is maybe easier to type if the number is memorized. The best would be to include it into the ''Specials characters'' tab of the editing toolbar, here is a section ''Symbols'' that already contains things like <code>↔ ↑ ↓ ← →</code>... --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 20:43, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Cmloegcmluin: /* Unicode Black Star (U+2605) */

2021-05-20T20:12:01Z

Unicode Black Star (U+2605)

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	Technically, all options (<code><nowiki>★ &#9733; &#x2605;</nowiki></code>) should be the same: ★ ★ ★ --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 06:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)		Technically, all options (<code><nowiki>★ &#9733; &#x2605;</nowiki></code>) should be the same: ★ ★ ★ --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 06:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

			: Sorry, what do you mean? That I should use ★ instead of ★ for some reason? Or that my table is incorrect and every cell should have three stars? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin\|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin\|talk]]) 20:12, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* Unicode Black Star (U+2605) */ new section

2021-05-20T06:44:00Z

Unicode Black Star (U+2605): new section

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== Unicode ''Black Star'' (U+2605) ==

Technically, all options (<code><nowiki>★ &#9733; &#x2605;</nowiki></code>) should be the same: ★ ★ ★ --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 06:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)