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	:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			::A page after being redirected is supposed to have this, but hard redirect bypasses it. A regular redirect to itself doesn't [[crash]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski at 15:41, 20 September 2018

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	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Mike Battaglia: format

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	:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
	:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
	::[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Mike Battaglia: querystring

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	:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
	:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
			::[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Mike Battaglia: Crash is ok

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Crash is ok

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	::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski at 15:30, 20 September 2018

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	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using ~~links~~-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

PiotrGrochowski at 15:28, 20 September 2018

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	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Mike Battaglia at 15:16, 20 September 2018

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	::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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	:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			::A page after being redirected is supposed to have this, but hard redirect bypasses it. A regular redirect to itself doesn't [[crash]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			:::::::[[Wiki help#Redirects]] now explictly states that there are 3 types, and regular redirect is distinct from hard redirect. Regular redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</nowiki>, while a hard redirect is <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</nowiki>. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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	:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
	:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
	::[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			:[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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	:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:If users want to see a [[crash]] page, they can thanks to me. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
	:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)		:It works by the way interlanguage travel works. This redirect redirects to :en:Crash, and interlanguage travel travels to this site ignoring instructions like &redirect=no. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 16:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
			::[[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]], on a different note, having ?redirect=no seems to work for me. [https://en.xen.wiki/w/Crash?redirect=no See here.] [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::OK. This is a MediaWiki bug and there is very little we can do about it other than to deliberately get rid of such circular redirects if they arise. We don't want a page that intentionally crashes people's browsers, and would like to get rid of this. [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 06:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::It's a hard redirect. [[Wiki help#Redirects]] now shows the MediaWiki code for a hard redirect. It is important for compatibility of the migration, where double redirects were hard redirects, and thanks to this feature bug we can have hard redirects in the migration, although they aren't coded into the FREEZE engine. [[2 1]] is now a hard redirect to [[2/1]], which is a regular redirect to [[Octave]]. Similarly with [[531441 524288]]. [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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	::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		::::Yeah, for reference, the hard redirects were taken directly from Wikispaces. But I did add the ones from 2_1 to 2/1, since I thought it would be cleaner. Wikispaces didn't let you use "/" in page title names but does let you use "_", whereas MediaWiki lets you use "/" and converts "_" to a space, so I thought, let's change it. I like your page on when to use soft and hard redirects. I think what you are doing is mostly good and want to give you the space to do your thing, but do we need this "Crash" page for what you are trying to do? [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:16, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
	:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)		:::::The FREEZE engine turned Wikispaces' hard redirects into MediaWiki's regular redirects, not hard redirects. And that page about redirects is not mine, it was from [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects xenharmonic.wikispaces.com] but I added regular redirects as a third redirect type as MediaWiki has it. The [[Crash]] page is, as I said, for users that want a [[crash]] page! [[User:PiotrGrochowski\|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski\|talk]]) 15:28, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
			::::::OK, we'll just leave the Crash page - I didn't realize you were using it page as part of your demonstration on circular redirects. But this seems to be the same type of redirect as the other redirects -- it uses <code>#REDIRECT</code>. I think that's what you're calling "hard". [[User:Battaglia01\|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Battaglia01\|talk]]) 15:37, 20 September 2018 (UTC)