Talk:Amity family - Revision history

FloraC: +1

2026-06-03T15:20:41Z

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	: The mapping for 17 is problematic. Should branch to 152fg & 311 and 159 & 311 in the 17-limit. Note that 463 is dual-13 dual-17 (463fg has a slightly lower 17-limit TE error than 463). The base temperament could be no-17 29-limit.		: The mapping for 17 is problematic. Should branch to 152fg & 311 and 159 & 311 in the 17-limit. Note that 463 is dual-13 dual-17 (463fg has a slightly lower 17-limit TE error than 463). The base temperament could be no-17 29-limit.

	—[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 10:04, 3 June 2026 (UTC)		; Witcher
			: 11-limit hitch may be renamed to ''hitcher'', thereby setting 198 & 265 as the canonical 13-limit extension.

			—[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 10:04, 3 June 2026 (UTC) (updated [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 15:20, 3 June 2026 (UTC))

FloraC at 10:04, 3 June 2026

2026-06-03T10:04:25Z

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	: I've been thinking this temperament needs to be renamed also, but I wasn't sure if anyone else besides me really thought this was the case until now. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 02:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)		: I've been thinking this temperament needs to be renamed also, but I wasn't sure if anyone else besides me really thought this was the case until now. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 02:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

			== Extensions ==
			; Amity
			: The mapping for 11 is obviously problematic as it excludes half of the tuning range, tho unless someone has a good name I don't mind keeping it. More importantly the mapping for 17 is weak, and so this branch (whatever name it uses) could go straight to no-17 19-limit.

			; Hitchcock
			: The mapping for 19 makes little sense. Even the 17 is questionable. Should be clipped at least after the 17-limit.

			; Stalagmite
			: Misses an obvious 23-limit extension, tho the mapping for 19 is questionable so we need to decide if it's full or no-19 23-limit.

			; Accord
			: Misses an obvious 13-limit extension (39df & 46).

			; Paramity
			: The mapping for 17 is weak. Could go straight to no-17 19-limit.

			; Trinity
			: The mapping for 17 is problematic. Should branch to 152fg & 311 and 159 & 311 in the 17-limit. Note that 463 is dual-13 dual-17 (463fg has a slightly lower 17-limit TE error than 463). The base temperament could be no-17 29-limit.

			—[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 10:04, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Aura at 02:51, 30 October 2025

2025-10-30T02:51:02Z

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	: I agree that catamite is not an appropriate name, but stalagmite sounds kind of weird as a temperament name. I propose the name "inframity", as "infra" means "below".--[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 22:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)		: I agree that catamite is not an appropriate name, but stalagmite sounds kind of weird as a temperament name. I propose the name "inframity", as "infra" means "below".--[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 22:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

			: I've been thinking this temperament needs to be renamed also, but I wasn't sure if anyone else besides me really thought this was the case until now. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 02:51, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Overthink: /* Proposal to rename catamite */ + reply

2025-10-29T22:02:53Z

Proposal to rename catamite: + reply

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	--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 01:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)		--[[User:BudjarnLambeth\|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth\|talk]]) 01:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
			: I agree that catamite is not an appropriate name, but stalagmite sounds kind of weird as a temperament name. I propose the name "inframity", as "infra" means "below".--[[User:Overthink\|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink\|talk]]) 22:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)

BudjarnLambeth: Name change proposal (catamite -> stalagmite)

2025-10-20T01:10:56Z

Name change proposal (catamite -> stalagmite)

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== Proposal to rename catamite ==
We should rename "catamite" temperament: [[Amity family#Catamite]].

''Wikipedia'': "A catamite (Latin: catamītus) was a pubescent boy who was the intimate companion of an older male, usually in a pederastic relationship."

While catamites were not always children, they often were, and we should not have a temperament named after child abuse.

This name contravenes ''[[Temperament naming]]'': "the name must not be offensive, where "offensive" is defined as referring to topics that quite a few would deem controversial and/or where the name is NSFW (not-safe-for-work)."

I propose the name "stalagmite", since it's associated with caves so it preserves the meaning of "cata-" ("down").

Please reply and let me know:
# If you think "catamite" should be renamed to something else.
# If you would be okay with the name "stalagmite".
# If you have any other names you would like to suggest?

If all or the large majority of replies are in favour, then after I receive 3 replies or after 24 hours pass, whichever happens first, I will go ahead and make the change.

--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 01:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)