Talk:41edo - Revision history

FloraC at 10:57, 3 March 2026

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	== Theory section rework ==		== Theory section rework ==
			The section was a mess since multiple topics were fused together. I reworked it in this order such that JI approximation quality comes first, and its identity as a tuning of higher-rank temperaments next. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 17:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

	~~The section was a mess since multiple topics were fused together~~. ~~I reworked it in this order such that JI approximation quality comes first, and its identity as a tuning of higher-rank temperaments next~~. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 17:56, ~~7 December 2021~~ (UTC)		== List of commas ==
			We can't let it expand indefinitely. Some cap should be set. —[[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 10:57, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Fredg999: Move high priority to talk page

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Move high priority to talk page

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	== The column of ratios should not be centered ==		== The column of ratios should not be centered ==
	The entries are not even near the same length. It looks messy. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 02:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)		The entries are not even near the same length. It looks messy. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 02:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

FloraC: /* Theory section rework */ new section

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Theory section rework: new section

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	: Nice. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 04:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)		: Nice. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 04:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

			== Theory section rework ==

			The section was a mess since multiple topics were fused together. I reworked it in this order such that JI approximation quality comes first, and its identity as a tuning of higher-rank temperaments next. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 17:56, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

FloraC: re

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	Up to 9 columns can now be aligned in one place: in the class attribute of the table. The built-in table default is left-alignment. You may override this by adding a class for each column that differs from that. Ffor example <code>class="wikitable right-1 right-2"</code> means that the text columns 1 and 2 will be right-aligned. There are 3×9 classes: <code>left-1</code> to <code>left-9</code>, <code>center-1</code> to <code>center-9</code>, and <code>right-1</code> to <code>right-1</code>. The actual styling is done via CSS (see [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]). I stopped reworking the page after changing one of the tables because I urgently need a break now. Maybe you'd like (😉) to continue in the meantime. <br>		Up to 9 columns can now be aligned in one place: in the class attribute of the table. The built-in table default is left-alignment. You may override this by adding a class for each column that differs from that. Ffor example <code>class="wikitable right-1 right-2"</code> means that the text columns 1 and 2 will be right-aligned. There are 3×9 classes: <code>left-1</code> to <code>left-9</code>, <code>center-1</code> to <code>center-9</code>, and <code>right-1</code> to <code>right-1</code>. The actual styling is done via CSS (see [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]). I stopped reworking the page after changing one of the tables because I urgently need a break now. Maybe you'd like (😉) to continue in the meantime. <br>
	--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 21:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 21:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

			: Nice. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 04:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* The column of ratios should not be centered */ solution found.

2020-06-01T21:37:20Z

The column of ratios should not be centered: solution found.

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	:::: Now it's not in the conventions, I'm going with per-cell alignment for what we have agreed upon here anyway. Besides, I looked into Wikipedia only to find no column-wide alignment documented, so that must be the case. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 13:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		:::: Now it's not in the conventions, I'm going with per-cell alignment for what we have agreed upon here anyway. Besides, I looked into Wikipedia only to find no column-wide alignment documented, so that must be the case. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 13:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
	::::: Looks good so far. I continue to search for a general solution to this problem. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 14:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		::::: Looks good so far. I continue to search for a general solution to this problem. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 14:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

			'''I finally found the solution:''' <br>
			Up to 9 columns can now be aligned in one place: in the class attribute of the table. The built-in table default is left-alignment. You may override this by adding a class for each column that differs from that. Ffor example <code>class="wikitable right-1 right-2"</code> means that the text columns 1 and 2 will be right-aligned. There are 3×9 classes: <code>left-1</code> to <code>left-9</code>, <code>center-1</code> to <code>center-9</code>, and <code>right-1</code> to <code>right-1</code>. The actual styling is done via CSS (see [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]). I stopped reworking the page after changing one of the tables because I urgently need a break now. Maybe you'd like (😉) to continue in the meantime. <br>
			--[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 21:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* The column of ratios should not be centered */ re

2020-06-01T14:34:03Z

The column of ratios should not be centered: re

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	:::: Now it's not in the conventions, I'm going with per-cell alignment for what we have agreed upon here anyway. Besides, I looked into Wikipedia only to find no column-wide alignment documented, so that must be the case. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 13:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		:::: Now it's not in the conventions, I'm going with per-cell alignment for what we have agreed upon here anyway. Besides, I looked into Wikipedia only to find no column-wide alignment documented, so that must be the case. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 13:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
			::::: Looks good so far. I continue to search for a general solution to this problem. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 14:34, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

FloraC: re

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	:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
	::: conerning ''make center to default'': I don't favor center. I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		::: conerning ''make center to default'': I don't favor center. I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

			:::: Now it's not in the conventions, I'm going with per-cell alignment for what we have agreed upon here anyway. Besides, I looked into Wikipedia only to find no column-wide alignment documented, so that must be the case. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 13:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* The column of ratios should not be centered */ clarification

2020-06-01T09:23:31Z

The column of ratios should not be centered: clarification

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	:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
	::: ~~No,~~ I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		::: conerning ''make center to default'': I don't favor center. I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Xenwolf: /* The column of ratios should not be centered */ re

2020-06-01T09:21:16Z

The column of ratios should not be centered: re

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	:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
			::: No, I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

FloraC: But what do we do?

2020-06-01T05:03:45Z

But what do we do?

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	: In my opinion, single common fractions should be centered (most are octave-reduced and thus centered) while lists of fractions should be left-aligned. Decimals should be right-aligned (where fixed point makes sense, with a column-wide identical count of decimal places. Text should be left aligned. What do you think? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 12:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)		: In my opinion, single common fractions should be centered (most are octave-reduced and thus centered) while lists of fractions should be left-aligned. Decimals should be right-aligned (where fixed point makes sense, with a column-wide identical count of decimal places. Text should be left aligned. What do you think? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 12:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
	:: Side note: I edited the page semi-autmatically (in an external editor with regex replacements). My primary goal was to remove the massive amount of redundant per-cell inline styling. I was not satisfied with each aspect of my results, but since they were an improvement anyway, I refused to reintroduce styling that ''could'' be disputable. So it's good you came along for a review 🙂 --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]])		:: Side note: I edited the page semi-autmatically (in an external editor with regex replacements). My primary goal was to remove the massive amount of redundant per-cell inline styling. I was not satisfied with each aspect of my results, but since they were an improvement anyway, I refused to reintroduce styling that ''could'' be disputable. So it's good you came along for a review 🙂 --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]])

			:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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	:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
	::: conerning ''make center to default'': I don't favor center. I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)		::: conerning ''make center to default'': I don't favor center. I chose the default from the most used inline style specifications I encounter. There are people active in the wiki who favor centered text (maybe for esthetical reasons) and I try to respect things they do as far as it not too repelling to me. The problem with tables is that there is no good column-wide styling mechanism I'm currently knowing about. Maybe (hopefully) you have the expertise to explain me that I'm wrong. --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 09:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

			:::: Now it's not in the conventions, I'm going with per-cell alignment for what we have agreed upon here anyway. Besides, I looked into Wikipedia only to find no column-wide alignment documented, so that must be the case. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 13:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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	: In my opinion, single common fractions should be centered (most are octave-reduced and thus centered) while lists of fractions should be left-aligned. Decimals should be right-aligned (where fixed point makes sense, with a column-wide identical count of decimal places. Text should be left aligned. What do you think? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 12:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)		: In my opinion, single common fractions should be centered (most are octave-reduced and thus centered) while lists of fractions should be left-aligned. Decimals should be right-aligned (where fixed point makes sense, with a column-wide identical count of decimal places. Text should be left aligned. What do you think? --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]]) 12:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
	:: Side note: I edited the page semi-autmatically (in an external editor with regex replacements). My primary goal was to remove the massive amount of redundant per-cell inline styling. I was not satisfied with each aspect of my results, but since they were an improvement anyway, I refused to reintroduce styling that ''could'' be disputable. So it's good you came along for a review 🙂 --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]])		:: Side note: I edited the page semi-autmatically (in an external editor with regex replacements). My primary goal was to remove the massive amount of redundant per-cell inline styling. I was not satisfied with each aspect of my results, but since they were an improvement anyway, I refused to reintroduce styling that ''could'' be disputable. So it's good you came along for a review 🙂 --[[User:Xenwolf\|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf\|talk]])

			:: D'accord. But the solution is to default to center and add per-cell style to what should be left/right-aligned? That doesn't sound much different than before. [[User:FloraC\|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC\|talk]]) 05:03, 1 June 2020 (UTC)