Talk:33/25 - Revision history

https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3A33%2F25 Talk:33/25 - Revision history 2026-07-28T03:34:38Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.6 https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56883&oldid=prev Aura at 23:03, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T23:03:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:03, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute". Beyond that up until that difference starts to get too close to 33/32 on either side of the just perfect fourth or just perfect fifth, the intervals should just be designated with the super- and sub- prefixes. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute". Beyond that up until that difference starts to get too close to 33/32 on either side of the just perfect fourth or just perfect fifth, the intervals should just be designated with the super- and sub- prefixes. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::: Oh, and sorry about the multiple edits of the above comment. I should have taken the time to gather my thoughts together first. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:03, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56882&oldid=prev Aura at 23:00, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T23:00:21Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:00, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or greater</del>, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">- </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is, </del>until that difference starts to get too close to 33/32 on either side of the just perfect fourth or just perfect fifth. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Beyond </ins>that <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">up </ins>until that difference starts to get too close to 33/32 on either side of the just perfect fourth or just perfect fifth<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, the intervals should just be designated with the super- and sub- prefixes</ins>. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56881&oldid=prev Aura at 22:55, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T22:55:14Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:55, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80 or greater, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute". --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">53</del>, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80 or greater, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">- that is, until that difference starts to get too close to 33/32 on either side of the just perfect fourth or just perfect fifth</ins>. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">55</ins>, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56880&oldid=prev Aura at 22:53, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T22:53:30Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:53, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l16">Line 16:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 16:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::: Now that I think about it, however, I should point out that since the difference in cents between 4/3 and 33/25 is about 17.4 cents, and since the difference between this and a syntonic comma is actually around 4.1 cents, and this is noticeable, I'm thinking that fifths and fourths that differ from their perfect counterparts by a noticeably smaller interval than a syntonic comma should be the only fifths and fourths that are designated as "imperfect". If the difference between a given fourth or fifth and it's just 3-limit counterpart is within an unnoticeable comma's distance of 81/80 or greater, the fourth or fifth in question should be designated as either "grave" or "acute". --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56879&oldid=prev Aura at 22:29, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T22:29:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:29, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </del>I figured that we could use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>I figured that we could use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we could call them "quasiperfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56878&oldid=prev Aura at 22:28, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T22:28:23Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:28, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2. I<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'d figure </del>we use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2. I <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">figured that </ins>we <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">could </ins>use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">would </del>call them "<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">quasi-perfect</del>"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">could </ins>call them "<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">quasiperfect</ins>"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56877&oldid=prev Aura at 22:27, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T22:27:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:27, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2. I'd figure we use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2. I'd figure we use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::: For those ratios that fall within the 3.5-cent range on either side of 3/2, we would call them "quasi-perfect"- or at least that's my thinking on the matter. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56876&oldid=prev Aura at 22:26, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T22:26:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:26, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::: Because different EDOs have their own tempered versions of [[3/2]], and some of them are only an unnoticeable comma's distance away from the actual 3/2. I'd figure we use the "imperfect" label for cases where the differences are more noticeable. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Aura https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56875&oldid=prev Xenwolf: /* Relation to 128/99 */ re 2020-12-17T22:16:37Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Relation to 128/99: </span> re</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:16, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Right then. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::: Right then. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::: But why imperfect? If it's undecimal, it cannot be perfect, so the ''imperfect'' attribute seems redundant to me. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Xenwolf https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:33/25&diff=56873&oldid=prev Aura at 21:54, 17 December 2020 2020-12-17T21:54:05Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:54, 17 December 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: As can be seen on [[Gallery of just intervals]], "unedecimal forth" isn't already taken. So I'd suggest to remove the ''sub'' prefix here. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: As can be seen on [[Gallery of just intervals]], "unedecimal forth" isn't already taken. So I'd suggest to remove the ''sub'' prefix here. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:28, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::: Right then. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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