Septendecima - Revision history

FloraC: Cleanup. + time of the new name

2026-03-05T09:03:28Z

Cleanup. + time of the new name

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	\| Monzo = -52 -17 34		\| Monzo = -52 -17 34
	\| Name = septendecima		\| Name = septendecima
			\| FJS name = -
	\| Color name = LLy<sup>34</sup>-8, lala-sebiyo negative octave		\| Color name = LLy<sup>34</sup>-8, lala-sebiyo negative octave
	\| Comma = yes		\| Comma = yes
	}}		}}

	The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[5-limit]] [[comma]]. It is the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]]'s and one [[2/1\|octave]].		The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[5-limit]] [[comma]]. It is the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]]'s and one [[2/1\|octave]].

	== Temperaments ==		== Temperaments ==
	The [[regular temperament\|temperament]] which [[tempering out\|tempers out]] only this comma is 5-limit [[~~ragismic microtemperaments #Chlorine\|~~chlorine]]. The octave must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma. Any edo such as [[311edo]], which is not a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out this comma.		The [[regular temperament\|temperament]] which [[tempering out\|tempers out]] only this comma is 5-limit [[chlorine]]. The octave must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma. Any edo such as [[311edo]], which is not a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out this comma.

	== Etymology ==		== Etymology ==
	This comma was once named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2001 in terms of the corresponding temperament, ''heptadecal'', for the temperament has 17 periods per octave<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_2121.html Yahoo! Tuning Group \| ''Shismic & co'']</ref>. The logical name for the comma would be ''heptadeca'', following ''[[enneadeca]]''. ~~It was unclear how and why~~ it ~~was~~ changed to ''septendecima'', the Latin equivalent.		This comma was once named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2001 in terms of the corresponding temperament, ''heptadecal'', for the temperament has 17 periods per octave<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_2121.html Yahoo! Tuning Group \| ''Shismic & co'']</ref>. The logical name for the comma would be ''heptadeca'', following ''[[enneadeca]]''. By 2012, it had been changed to ''septendecima'', the Latin equivalent<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_104268.html#104413 Yahoo! Tuning Group \| ''2D temperament names, part I -- reclassified temperaments from message #101780'']</ref>. It was unclear how and why the change was made.

	== ~~Notes~~ ==		== References ==

	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]
	[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]		[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]

FloraC: +etymology

2025-04-17T05:55:15Z

+etymology

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	The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[5-limit]] [[comma]]. It is the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]]'s and one [[octave]].		The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[5-limit]] [[comma]]. It is the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]]'s and one [[2/1\|octave]].

	The [[regular temperament\|temperament]] which [[tempering out\|tempers out]] only this comma is 5-limit [[~~Ragismic~~ microtemperaments #Chlorine\|chlorine]]. The octave must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma. Any edo such as [[311edo]], which is not a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out this comma.		== Temperaments ==
			The [[regular temperament\|temperament]] which [[tempering out\|tempers out]] only this comma is 5-limit [[ragismic microtemperaments #Chlorine\|chlorine]]. The octave must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma. Any edo such as [[311edo]], which is not a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out this comma.

			== Etymology ==
			This comma was once named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2001 in terms of the corresponding temperament, ''heptadecal'', for the temperament has 17 periods per octave<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_2121.html Yahoo! Tuning Group \| ''Shismic & co'']</ref>. The logical name for the comma would be ''heptadeca'', following ''[[enneadeca]]''. It was unclear how and why it was changed to ''septendecima'', the Latin equivalent.

			== Notes ==

	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]
	[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]		[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]

BudjarnLambeth at 00:48, 4 November 2024

2024-11-04T00:48:49Z

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	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]
	[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]		[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]
	~~[[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]~~

BudjarnLambeth at 00:41, 4 November 2024

2024-11-04T00:41:26Z

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	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]
	[[Category:Commas named for their ~~regular temperament properties~~]]		[[Category:Commas named for their periods per equave]]
			[[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]

BudjarnLambeth at 13:34, 3 November 2024

2024-11-03T13:34:09Z

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	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]
			[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]

FloraC: Rework

2024-07-23T07:35:51Z

Rework

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	The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is a [[5-limit]] [[~~unnoticeable~~ comma]]. It ~~represents~~ the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]] ~~intervals~~ and one ~~octave, and tempering it out means that~~ [[25/24 equal-step tuning]] is equated with [[17edo]]. Therefore, a temperament must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma, any edo such as [[311edo]], which isn't a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out the 25/24 kleisma. The temperament which tempers out only this comma is 5-limit [[Ragismic microtemperaments#Chlorine\|chlorine]].		The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[5-limit]] [[comma]]. It is the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]]'s and one [[octave]].

	~~== See also ==~~		The [[regular temperament\|temperament]] which [[tempering out\|tempers out]] only this comma is 5-limit [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Chlorine\|chlorine]]. The octave must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma. Any edo such as [[311edo]], which is not a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out this comma.
	* [[~~Unnoticeable~~ comma]]

	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]

Tristanbay: Mentioned relation to chlorine temperament

2024-05-26T17:29:53Z

Mentioned relation to chlorine temperament

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	The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is a [[5-limit]] [[unnoticeable comma]]. It represents the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]] intervals and one octave, and tempering it out means that [[25/24 equal-step tuning]] is equated with [[17edo]]. Therefore, a temperament must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma, any edo such as [[311edo]], which isn't a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out the 25/24 kleisma.		The '''septendecima''' ([[monzo]]: {{monzo\| -52 -17 34 }}) is a [[5-limit]] [[unnoticeable comma]]. It represents the difference between a stack of seventeen [[25/24]] intervals and one octave, and tempering it out means that [[25/24 equal-step tuning]] is equated with [[17edo]]. Therefore, a temperament must be divisible by 17 in order to temper out this comma, any edo such as [[311edo]], which isn't a multiple of 17 cannot be tempering out the 25/24 kleisma. The temperament which tempers out only this comma is 5-limit [[Ragismic microtemperaments#Chlorine\|chlorine]].

	== See also ==		== See also ==

Francium: Added color name

2023-09-08T06:16:37Z

Added color name

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	\| Monzo = -52 -17 34		\| Monzo = -52 -17 34
	\| Name = septendecima		\| Name = septendecima
			\| Color name = LLy<sup>34</sup>-8, lala-sebiyo negative octave
	\| Comma = yes		\| Comma = yes
	}}		}}

Plumtree: Normalising usage of Infobox Interval

2022-10-25T18:01:28Z

Normalising usage of Infobox Interval

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	\| Ratio = 582 076 609 134 674 072 265 625 / <br>581 595 589 965 365 114 830 848		\| Ratio = 582 076 609 134 674 072 265 625 / <br>581 595 589 965 365 114 830 848
	\| Monzo = -52 -17 34		\| Monzo = -52 -17 34
	~~\| Cents = 1.4314~~
	\| Name = septendecima		\| Name = septendecima
			\| Comma = yes
	}}		}}

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	* [[Unnoticeable comma]]		* [[Unnoticeable comma]]

	~~[[Category:5-limit]]~~
	~~[[Category:Unnoticeable commas]]~~
	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]

Fredg999 category edits: Moving from Category:Unnoticeable comma to Category:Unnoticeable commas using Cat-a-lot

2022-03-20T22:01:55Z

Moving from Category:Unnoticeable comma to Category:Unnoticeable commas using Cat-a-lot

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	[[Category:5-limit]]		[[Category:5-limit]]
	[[Category:Unnoticeable ~~comma~~]]		[[Category:Unnoticeable commas]]
	[[Category:Chlorine]]		[[Category:Chlorine]]