Ptolemy's intense diatonic - Revision history

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	It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.		It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.

	Note that equating the large step [[9/8]] with the medium step [[10/9]] results in [[Meantone]][7], whereas equating the medium step [[10/9]] with the small step [[16/5]] results in [[Dicot]][7].		Note that equating the large step [[9/8]] with the medium step [[10/9]] results in [[Meantone]][7], whereas equating the medium step [[10/9]] with the small step [[16/15]] results in [[Dicot]][7].

	== Modes ==		== Modes ==

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	It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.		It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.

			Note that equating the large step [[9/8]] with the medium step [[10/9]] results in [[Meantone]][7], whereas equating the medium step [[10/9]] with the small step [[16/5]] results in [[Dicot]][7].

	== Modes ==		== Modes ==

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 It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.
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-Ptolemy's Intense Diatonic Systonon, also Zarlino's scale, mavchrome7, Dwarf(&lt;7 11 16|), or Dicot-meantone-mavila wakalix 1
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	{{Wikipedia\|Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale}}		{{Wikipedia\|Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale}}
	[[File:zarlino2.png\|~~500px~~\|thumb\|right\|The left and right handed variations of the just diatonic scale on the [[5-limit]] [[lattice]].]]		[[File:zarlino2.png\|400px\|thumb\|right\|The left and right handed variations of the just diatonic scale on the [[5-limit]] [[lattice]].]]
	'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.		'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern. In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale. It is a [[chiral scale]], meaning it comes in two variations, which are called right and left-handed. Both versions contain a [[40/27]] wolf fifth.
	In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale.
	It is a [[chiral scale]], meaning it comes in two variations, which are called right and left-handed. Both versions contain a [[40/27]] wolf fifth.

	It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].		It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].

	It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.		It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.
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	The left-handed variation has 10/9 instead of 9/8 on the second degree.		The left-handed variation has 10/9 instead of 9/8 on the second degree. It can be obtained from the right-handed version by reversing its steps. It is most commonly encountered in the 6th mode (with 5/3 as the root) which gives the usual 5-limit minor diatonic: {{dash\|1/1, 9/8, 6/5, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 9/5, 2/1}}.
	It can be obtained from the right-handed version by reversing its steps.
	It is most commonly encountered in the 6th mode (with 5/3 as the root) which gives the usual 5-limit minor diatonic: {{dash\|1/1, 9/8, 6/5, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 9/5, 2/1}}.

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			[[File:zarlino2.png\|500px\|thumb\|right\|The left and right handed variations of the just diatonic scale on the [[5-limit]] [[lattice]].]]
	'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.		'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.
	In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale.		In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale.

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	'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.		'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.

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	'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.		'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.
	In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale.		In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale.
	It is a [[chiral scale]], meaning it comes in two variations, which are called right and left-handed.		It is a [[chiral scale]], meaning it comes in two variations, which are called right and left-handed. Both versions contain a [[40/27]] wolf fifth.

	It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].		It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].

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	{{Wikipedia\|Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale}}		{{Wikipedia\|Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale}}
	'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern. ~~It is also the basis of~~ [[Ben Johnston's notation]].		'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern.
			In [[Ben Johnston's notation]], the scale is the basic uninflected diatonic scale.
			It is a [[chiral scale]], meaning it comes in two variations, which are called right and left-handed.

	It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].		It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].
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	Ptolemy's Intense Diatonic Systonon, also Zarlino's scale, mavchrome7, Dwarf(<7 11 16\|), or Dicot-meantone-mavila wakalix 1		Ptolemy's Intense Diatonic Systonon, also Zarlino's scale, mavchrome7, Dwarf(<7 11 16\|), or Dicot-meantone-mavila wakalix 1
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	The left-handed variation has 10/9 instead of 9/8 on the second degree. It is most commonly encountered in the 6th mode (with 5/3 as the root) which gives the usual 5-limit minor diatonic: {{dash\|1/1, 9/8, 6/5, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 9/5, 2/1}}.		The left-handed variation has 10/9 instead of 9/8 on the second degree.
			It can be obtained from the right-handed version by reversing its steps.
			It is most commonly encountered in the 6th mode (with 5/3 as the root) which gives the usual 5-limit minor diatonic: {{dash\|1/1, 9/8, 6/5, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 9/5, 2/1}}.

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			== Fokker blocks ==
			The scale can be found in three different [[Fokker block]]s, using the chromas [[25/24]], [[81/80]] and [[135/128]].

	; Fokker block 1		; Fokker block 1

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	'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern. It is also the basis of [[Ben Johnston's notation]].		'''Ptolemy's intense diatonic''' scale (also known as '''Zarlino''', or simply the '''just diatonic scale''') is a [[heptatonic]] [[5-limit]] [[JI]] [[scale]] with the [[nicetone]] step pattern. It is also the basis of [[Ben Johnston's notation]].

	It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[9/8]], [[10/9]] and [[16/15]].		It can be constructed as a [[Fokker block]] in multiple ways, making it a [[wakalix]]. Another derivation is through a [[tetrachord]] consisting of [[16/15]], [[9/8]] and [[10/9]].

	It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.		It can also be derived from tuning the tonic, dominant and subdominant chords as 5-limit just major chords ([[4:5:6]]): {{dash\|FAC, CEG, GBD}}.

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	* [[Nicetone]] – regular 3L 2m 2s scale		* [[Nicetone]] – regular 3L 2m 2s scale
	* [[Superzarlino]]		* [[Superzarlino]]
			* [[mavchrome6]], [[dimeanmav2]]

	[[Category:7-tone scales]]		[[Category:7-tone scales]]