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	* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).		* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).

	For these or similar reasons, some musicians do not like prime equal divisions (e.g. the makers of [[Armodue]]) and others love them.		For these or similar reasons, some musicians do not like prime equal divisions (e.g. the makers of [[Armodue (theory)\|Armodue]]) and others love them.

	Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, mos scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).		Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, mos scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).

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	* There is ''no fully symmetric chord'' (such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]]).		* There is ''no fully symmetric chord'' (such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]]).
	* Excepting the scale comprising all notes of the tuning, there is no absolutely uniform scale that repeats at the equave (such as the whole tone scale in 12edo, which only has whole steps and repeats at the octave).		* Excepting the scale comprising all notes of the tuning, there is no absolutely uniform scale that repeats at the equave (such as the whole tone scale in 12edo, which only has whole steps and repeats at the octave).
	* There are no {{w\|modes of limited transposition}}, such as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.		* There are no {{w\|mode of limited transposition\|modes of limited transposition}}, such as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.
	* There is no support for rank-2 temperaments whose period is a fraction of the equave (all octave-periodic temperaments are ''linear'' temperaments).		* There is no support for rank-2 temperaments whose period is a fraction of the equave (all octave-periodic temperaments are ''linear'' temperaments).
	* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).		* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).

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	A '''prime equal division''' is an [[equal tuning]] that divides a given [[equave]] into a [[prime number]] of pitches. The opposite of a prime equal division is a [[highly composite equal division]].		A '''prime equal division''' is an [[equal tuning]] that divides a given [[equave]] into a [[prime number]] of pitches. The opposite of a prime equal division is a [[highly composite equal division]].

	A '''prime edo''' therefore contains a prime number of pitches per [[octave]], such as {{EDOs\|7edo, 13edo, and 41edo}}.		A '''prime edo''' therefore contains a prime number of pitches per [[octave]], such as {{EDOs\| 7edo, 13edo, and 41edo }}.

	== Properties ==		== Properties ==
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	* There is ''no fully symmetric chord'' (such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]]).		* There is ''no fully symmetric chord'' (such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]]).
	* Excepting the scale comprising all notes of the tuning, there is no absolutely uniform scale that repeats at the equave (such as the whole tone scale in 12edo, which only has whole steps and repeats at the octave).		* Excepting the scale comprising all notes of the tuning, there is no absolutely uniform scale that repeats at the equave (such as the whole tone scale in 12edo, which only has whole steps and repeats at the octave).
	* There are no ~~[[Wikipedia: Modes of limited transposition~~\|modes of limited transposition]], such as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.		* There are no {{w\|modes of limited transposition}}, such as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.
	* There is no support for rank-2 temperaments whose period is a fraction of the equave (all octave-periodic temperaments are ''linear'' temperaments).		* There is no support for rank-2 temperaments whose period is a fraction of the equave (all octave-periodic temperaments are ''linear'' temperaments).
	* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).		* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).
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	For these or similar reasons, some musicians do not like prime equal divisions (e.g. the makers of [[Armodue]]) and others love them.		For these or similar reasons, some musicians do not like prime equal divisions (e.g. the makers of [[Armodue]]) and others love them.

	Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, ~~MOS~~ scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).		Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, mos scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).

	A prime equal division is useful for avoiding intervals and patterns that are familiar-sounding due to their occurrence in 12edo, a highly composite equal division. Since 12 is 2 × 2 × 3, it contains {{EDOs\|2edo, 3edo, 4edo and 6edo}}. All edos with a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization will share at least one interval with 12edo, if not a whole chord or subset scale. Of course, if the goal is simply to avoid intervals of 12, then non-prime edos which ~~don't~~ have a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization, such as [[35edo]], will work just as well for this purpose.		A prime equal division is useful for avoiding intervals and patterns that are familiar-sounding due to their occurrence in 12edo, a highly composite equal division. Since 12 is 2 × 2 × 3, it contains {{EDOs\| 2edo, 3edo, 4edo and 6edo }}. All edos with a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization will share at least one interval with 12edo, if not a whole chord or subset scale. Of course, if the goal is simply to avoid intervals of 12, then non-prime edos which do not have a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization, such as [[35edo]], will work just as well for this purpose.

	If you like a certain edo for its intervals or other reasons, but do not like its primality or non-primality, choosing another equivalence interval, such as the [[EDT\|tritave (3/1)]] instead of the octave, can be an option. For example, [[27edt]] is a non-prime system very similar to 17edo, while [[19edt\|19edt (Stopper tuning)]] is a prime system very similar to the ubiquitous 12edo. (See [[EDT #EDT-EDO correspondence\|edt-edo correspondence]] for more of these.) Anyway, for every prime edo system there is a non-prime [[ed4]] system with identical step sizes.		If you like a certain edo for its intervals or other reasons, but do not like its primality or non-primality, choosing another equivalence interval, such as the [[EDT\|tritave (3/1)]] instead of the octave, can be an option. For example, [[27edt]] is a non-prime system very similar to 17edo, while [[19edt\|19edt (Stopper tuning)]] is a prime system very similar to the ubiquitous 12edo. (See [[EDT #EDT-EDO correspondence\|edt-edo correspondence]] for more of these.) Anyway, for every prime edo system there is a non-prime [[ed4]] system with identical step sizes.
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	Multiples of an edo, including multiples of a prime edo, can inherit properties from that edo, in particular a tuning for certain intervals. A multiple however is by definition more complex; a prime edo is always the least complex edo divisible by that prime, and these are listed below:		Multiples of an edo, including multiples of a prime edo, can inherit properties from that edo, in particular a tuning for certain intervals. A multiple however is by definition more complex; a prime edo is always the least complex edo divisible by that prime, and these are listed below:

	{{EDOs\|2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19}}, <br>		{{EDOs\| 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19 }}, <br>
	{{EDOs\|23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53}}, <br>		{{EDOs\| 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53 }}, <br>
	{{EDOs\|59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89}}, <br>		{{EDOs\| 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89 }}, <br>
	{{EDOs\|97, 101, 103, 107, 109, 113, 127, 131}}, <br>		{{EDOs\| 97, 101, 103, 107, 109, 113, 127, 131 }}, <br>
	{{EDOs\|137, 139, 149, 151, 157, 163, 167, 173}}, <br>		{{EDOs\| 137, 139, 149, 151, 157, 163, 167, 173 }}, <br>
	{{EDOs\|179, 181, 191, 193, 197, 199}}.		{{EDOs\| 179, 181, 191, 193, 197, 199 }}.

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Highly composite equal division]]		* [[Highly composite equal division]]

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	A '''prime equal division''' is an [[equal tuning]] that divides a given [[equave]] into a [[prime number]] of pitches. The opposite of a prime equal division is a [[highly composite equal division]].		A '''prime equal division''' is an [[equal tuning]] that divides a given [[equave]] into a [[prime number]] of pitches. The opposite of a prime equal division is a [[highly composite equal division]].

	A '''prime edo''' therefore contains a prime number of pitches per [[octave]].		A '''prime edo''' therefore contains a prime number of pitches per [[octave]], such as {{EDOs\|7edo, 13edo, and 41edo}}.

	== Properties ==		== Properties ==
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	Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, MOS scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).		Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, MOS scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).

	A prime equal division is useful for avoiding intervals and patterns that are familiar-sounding due to their occurrence in 12edo, a highly composite equal division. Since 12 is 2 × 2 × 3, it contains [[2edo]], 3edo, [[4edo]] and [[6edo]]. All edos with a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization will share at least one interval with 12edo, if not a whole chord or subset scale. Of course, if the goal is simply to avoid intervals of 12, then non-prime edos which don't have a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization, such as [[35edo]], will work just as well for this purpose.		A prime equal division is useful for avoiding intervals and patterns that are familiar-sounding due to their occurrence in 12edo, a highly composite equal division. Since 12 is 2 × 2 × 3, it contains {{EDOs\|2edo, 3edo, 4edo and 6edo}}. All edos with a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization will share at least one interval with 12edo, if not a whole chord or subset scale. Of course, if the goal is simply to avoid intervals of 12, then non-prime edos which don't have a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization, such as [[35edo]], will work just as well for this purpose.

	If you like a certain edo for its intervals or other reasons, but do not like its primality or non-primality, choosing another equivalence interval, such as the [[EDT\|tritave (3/1)]] instead of the octave, can be an option. For example, [[27edt]] is a non-prime system very similar to 17edo, while [[19edt\|19edt (Stopper tuning)]] is a prime system very similar to the ubiquitous 12edo. (See [[EDT #EDT-EDO correspondence\|edt-edo correspondence]] for more of these.) Anyway, for every prime edo system there is a non-prime [[ed4]] system with identical step sizes.		If you like a certain edo for its intervals or other reasons, but do not like its primality or non-primality, choosing another equivalence interval, such as the [[EDT\|tritave (3/1)]] instead of the octave, can be an option. For example, [[27edt]] is a non-prime system very similar to 17edo, while [[19edt\|19edt (Stopper tuning)]] is a prime system very similar to the ubiquitous 12edo. (See [[EDT #EDT-EDO correspondence\|edt-edo correspondence]] for more of these.) Anyway, for every prime edo system there is a non-prime [[ed4]] system with identical step sizes.

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A '''prime equal division''' is an [[equal tuning]] that divides a given [[equave]] into a [[prime number]] of pitches. The opposite of a prime equal division is a [[highly composite equal division]].

A '''prime edo''' therefore contains a prime number of pitches per [[octave]].

== Properties ==
Prime equal divisions have many musical properties, which are especially significant for small primes. For larger primes, these properties are not as significant, since the difference between an absolutely uniform scale and an approximated, nearly uniform scale eventually become inaudible.

* There is ''no fully symmetric chord'' (such as the diminished seventh chord in [[12edo]]).
* Excepting the scale comprising all notes of the tuning, there is no absolutely uniform scale that repeats at the equave (such as the whole tone scale in 12edo, which only has whole steps and repeats at the octave).
* There are no [[Wikipedia: Modes of limited transposition|modes of limited transposition]], such as used by the composer Olivier Messiaen.
* There is no support for rank-2 temperaments whose period is a fraction of the equave (all octave-periodic temperaments are ''linear'' temperaments).
* Making a chain of any interval of the ''n''-equal division, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. (For composite edos, this works with intervals that are co-prime to ''n'', for example, 5 degrees of 12edo).

For these or similar reasons, some musicians do not like prime equal divisions (e.g. the makers of [[Armodue]]) and others love them.

Primality may be desirable if you want, for example, a whole tone scale that is ''not'' absolutely uniform. In this case you might like [[19edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 4, [[mos scale]] of type [[1L 5s]]) or [[17edo]] (with whole tone scale 3 3 3 3 3 2, MOS scale of type [[5L 1s]]). In general, making a chain of any interval of a prime ''n''-equal division, thus treating the interval as the generator of a mos scale, one can reach every tone in ''n'' steps. For composite equal divisions, this will only work with intervals that are co-prime to the edo, for example 5 degrees of [[12edo]] (which generates the diatonic scale and a cycle of fifths that closes at 12 tones) but not 4 out of 12 (which generates a much smaller cycle of [[3edo]]).

A prime equal division is useful for avoiding intervals and patterns that are familiar-sounding due to their occurrence in 12edo, a highly composite equal division. Since 12 is 2 × 2 × 3, it contains [[2edo]], 3edo, [[4edo]] and [[6edo]]. All edos with a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization will share at least one interval with 12edo, if not a whole chord or subset scale. Of course, if the goal is simply to avoid intervals of 12, then non-prime edos which don't have a 2, 3, 4, or 6 in their factorization, such as [[35edo]], will work just as well for this purpose.

If you like a certain edo for its intervals or other reasons, but do not like its primality or non-primality, choosing another equivalence interval, such as the [[EDT|tritave (3/1)]] instead of the octave, can be an option. For example, [[27edt]] is a non-prime system very similar to 17edo, while [[19edt|19edt (Stopper tuning)]] is a prime system very similar to the ubiquitous 12edo. (See [[EDT #EDT-EDO correspondence|edt-edo correspondence]] for more of these.) Anyway, for every prime edo system there is a non-prime [[ed4]] system with identical step sizes.

== Prime edo ==
=== The first 46 prime edos ===
Multiples of an edo, including multiples of a prime edo, can inherit properties from that edo, in particular a tuning for certain intervals. A multiple however is by definition more complex; a prime edo is always the least complex edo divisible by that prime, and these are listed below:

{{EDOs|2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19}}, 
{{EDOs|23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53}}, 
{{EDOs|59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89}}, 
{{EDOs|97, 101, 103, 107, 109, 113, 127, 131}}, 
{{EDOs|137, 139, 149, 151, 157, 163, 167, 173}}, 
{{EDOs|179, 181, 191, 193, 197, 199}}.

== See also ==
* [[Highly composite equal division]]

[[Category:Equal-step tuning]]