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	'''<u>A new microtuning method for midi synths</u>:'''		'''<u>A new microtuning method for midi synths</u>:'''

	As we're all painfully aware, the midi spec isn't very microtonal-friendly. The powers that be decided that pitch bend messages would affect the whole channel, not individual notes, so retuning most synths requires dividing the midi stream among multiple channels. That increases setup time for the user and reduces polyphony, and generally complicates matters. The powers that be did create the Midi Tuning Specification (MTS) sysexes, [http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php]. The single-note real-time sysex is the most powerful and useful one. MTS sysexes haven't been widely adopted, except for high-end Roland keyboards which use the considerably less powerful non-realtime Scale/Octave Tuning sysex.		As we're all painfully aware, the [[MIDI\|midi]] spec isn't very microtonal-friendly. The powers that be decided that pitch bend messages would affect the whole channel, not individual notes, so retuning most synths requires dividing the midi stream among multiple channels. That increases setup time for the user and reduces polyphony, and generally complicates matters. The powers that be did create the Midi Tuning Specification (MTS) sysexes, [http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php]. The single-note real-time sysex is the most powerful and useful one. MTS sysexes haven't been widely adopted, except for high-end Roland keyboards which use the considerably less powerful non-realtime Scale/Octave Tuning sysex.

	Sysexes have the disadvantage of being poorly supported in many environments:		Sysexes have the disadvantage of being poorly supported in many environments:

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	===Kontakt Scripts===		===Kontakt Scripts===

	Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta:		Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta:
	http://robertinventor.com/ftswiki/Velocity_keyswitches_retuning		http://robertinventor.com/ftswiki/Velocity_keyswitches_retuning

	The most recent version of this script uses only two keyswitch notes, with note 127 for "instructions" and note 126 for "data" which you can read about on that page. ~~However~~ it also supports the version described here using notes 123 to 127 as data. You can switch between the two methods using undefined controller 119. This aspect of the spec is still under discussion.		The most recent version of this script uses only two keyswitch notes, with note 127 for "instructions" and note 126 for "data" which you can read about on that page. This permits the program to send additional data, for instance it supports dynamic per note stereo panning and aftertouch style volume changes. It also lets the program update the name of the tuning on the Kontakt interface and also show the pitches as ratios relative to a 1/1 in the case of just intonation retuning.

			However his script still supports the version described here using notes 123 to 127 as data. You can switch between the two methods using undefined controller 119. This aspect of the spec is still under discussion.

	Kite Giedraitis has also adapted that script for Alt Tuner (adaptation of the earlier version of the script with key switches 123 to 127)		Kite Giedraitis has also adapted that script for Alt Tuner (adaptation of the earlier version of the script with key switches 123 to 127)
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	Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta: <br />		Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta:<br />
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			The most recent version of this script uses only two keyswitch notes, with note 127 for &quot;instructions&quot; and note 126 for &quot;data&quot; which you can read about on that page. This permits the program to send additional data, for instance it supports dynamic per note stereo panning and aftertouch style volume changes. It also lets the program update the name of the tuning on the Kontakt interface and also show the pitches as ratios relative to a 1/1 in the case of just intonation retuning. <br />
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	~~The most recent version of this~~ script ~~uses only two keyswitch notes, with note 127 for &quot;instructions&quot; and note 126 for &quot;data&quot; which you can read about on that page. However it also~~ supports the version described here using notes 123 to 127 as data. You can switch between the two methods using undefined controller 119. This aspect of the spec is still under discussion.<br />		However his script still supports the version described here using notes 123 to 127 as data. You can switch between the two methods using undefined controller 119. This aspect of the spec is still under discussion.<br />
	<br />		<br />
	Kite Giedraitis has also adapted that script for Alt Tuner (adaptation of the earlier version of the script with key switches 123 to 127)<br />		Kite Giedraitis has also adapted that script for Alt Tuner (adaptation of the earlier version of the script with key switches 123 to 127)<br />
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	Footnote on FL Studio sysex incompatibility, which is undocumented.<br />		Footnote on FL Studio sysex incompatibility, which is undocumented.<br />
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	G9 note-on/note-off: 9x 7F 07 7F 00 (set to multi-tunable)		G9 note-on/note-off: 9x 7F 07 7F 00 (set to multi-tunable)

	Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta: ~~[[@~~http://robertinventor.com/ftswiki/~~High_numbered_keyswitches_retuning]]~~		===Kontakt Scripts===

			Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta:
			http://robertinventor.com/ftswiki/Velocity_keyswitches_retuning

			The most recent version of this script uses only two keyswitch notes, with note 127 for "instructions" and note 126 for "data" which you can read about on that page. However it also supports the version described here using notes 123 to 127 as data. You can switch between the two methods using undefined controller 119. This aspect of the spec is still under discussion.

			Kite Giedraitis has also adapted that script for Alt Tuner (adaptation of the earlier version of the script with key switches 123 to 127)

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	Robert Walker has written a Kontakt script that implements this method for most Kontakt instruments. The script is still in beta: <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://robertinventor.com/ftswiki/~~High_numbered_keyswitches_retuning~~" rel="nofollow~~" target="_blank~~">http://robertinventor.com/ftswiki/~~High_numbered_keyswitches_retuning~~</a><br />		<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc0"><a name="x--Kontakt Scripts"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Kontakt Scripts</h3>
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			The most recent version of this script uses only two keyswitch notes, with note 127 for &quot;instructions&quot; and note 126 for &quot;data&quot; which you can read about on that page. However it also supports the version described here using notes 123 to 127 as data. You can switch between the two methods using undefined controller 119. This aspect of the spec is still under discussion.<br />
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			Kite Giedraitis has also adapted that script for Alt Tuner (adaptation of the earlier version of the script with key switches 123 to 127)<br />
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	<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">__A new microtuning method for midi synths__:		<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">__Update June 2016:__
			This tuning method is currently only implemented in alt-tuner and bounce. It only works with one synth, Kontakt, via a user-installed script. Contact the makers of alt-tuner and bounce for implementation details.


			__A new microtuning method for midi synths__:

	As we're all painfully aware, the midi spec isn't very microtonal-friendly. The powers that be decided that pitch bend messages would affect the whole channel, not individual notes, so retuning most synths requires dividing the midi stream among multiple channels. That increases setup time for the user and reduces polyphony, and generally complicates matters. The powers that be did create the Midi Tuning Specification (MTS) sysexes, [[@http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php]]. The single-note real-time sysex is the most powerful and useful one. MTS sysexes haven't been widely adopted, except for high-end Roland keyboards which use the considerably less powerful non-realtime Scale/Octave Tuning sysex.		As we're all painfully aware, the midi spec isn't very microtonal-friendly. The powers that be decided that pitch bend messages would affect the whole channel, not individual notes, so retuning most synths requires dividing the midi stream among multiple channels. That increases setup time for the user and reduces polyphony, and generally complicates matters. The powers that be did create the Midi Tuning Specification (MTS) sysexes, [[@http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php]]. The single-note real-time sysex is the most powerful and useful one. MTS sysexes haven't been widely adopted, except for high-end Roland keyboards which use the considerably less powerful non-realtime Scale/Octave Tuning sysex.
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	<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>New Tuning Method</title></head><body><strong><u>A new microtuning method for midi synths</u>:</strong><br />		<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>New Tuning Method</title></head><body><strong><u>Update June 2016:</u></strong><br />
			This tuning method is currently only implemented in alt-tuner and bounce. It only works with one synth, Kontakt, via a user-installed script. Contact the makers of alt-tuner and bounce for implementation details.<br />
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			<strong><u>A new microtuning method for midi synths</u>:</strong><br />
	<br />		<br />
	As we're all painfully aware, the midi spec isn't very microtonal-friendly. The powers that be decided that pitch bend messages would affect the whole channel, not individual notes, so retuning most synths requires dividing the midi stream among multiple channels. That increases setup time for the user and reduces polyphony, and generally complicates matters. The powers that be did create the Midi Tuning Specification (MTS) sysexes, <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php</a>. The single-note real-time sysex is the most powerful and useful one. MTS sysexes haven't been widely adopted, except for high-end Roland keyboards which use the considerably less powerful non-realtime Scale/Octave Tuning sysex.<br />		As we're all painfully aware, the midi spec isn't very microtonal-friendly. The powers that be decided that pitch bend messages would affect the whole channel, not individual notes, so retuning most synths requires dividing the midi stream among multiple channels. That increases setup time for the user and reduces polyphony, and generally complicates matters. The powers that be did create the Midi Tuning Specification (MTS) sysexes, <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php</a>. The single-note real-time sysex is the most powerful and useful one. MTS sysexes haven't been widely adopted, except for high-end Roland keyboards which use the considerably less powerful non-realtime Scale/Octave Tuning sysex.<br />
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	* Kontakt does not provide sysex support in its scripting language.		* Kontakt does not provide sysex support in its scripting language.
	* CSoundAV (CSound in real time) can't receive sysexes.		* CSoundAV (CSound in real time) can't receive sysexes.
	* Jesusonic (Reaper's built-in programming language) can't receive sysexes.
	* SonicBirth (an AU maker) doesn't even mention sysexes in its manual.		* SonicBirth (an AU maker) doesn't even mention sysexes in its manual.
	This means that synths created with CSoundAV~~, Jesusonic~~ or SonicBirth can't implement MTS. Any synth that does implement MTS won't do so if hosted in Abelton Live or FL Studio or Studio One. Also, Kontakt instruments can't be scripted to respond to MTS. For these reasons microtonalists have been considering alternatives to MTS sysexes.		This means that synths created with CSoundAV or SonicBirth can't implement MTS. Any synth that does implement MTS won't do so if hosted in Abelton Live or FL Studio or Studio One. Also, Kontakt instruments can't be scripted to respond to MTS. For these reasons microtonalists have been considering alternatives to MTS sysexes.

	The powers that be will probably never change the midi spec to give us what we want, a non-sysex method for tuning individual notes. So we've decided to simply create a new unofficial microtuning method. The plan is to have the new method supported by all the major midi tuning software packages, aka __retuners__: Alt-tuner, Bounce, Custom Scale Editor, Fractal Tune Smithy, LMSO, Scala, etc.		The powers that be will probably never change the midi spec to give us what we want, a non-sysex method for tuning individual notes. So we've decided to simply create a new unofficial microtuning method. The plan is to have the new method supported by all the major midi tuning software packages, aka __retuners__: Alt-tuner, Bounce, Custom Scale Editor, Fractal Tune Smithy, LMSO, Scala, etc.
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	Sysexes have the disadvantage of being poorly supported in many environments:<br />		Sysexes have the disadvantage of being poorly supported in many environments:<br />
	<ul><li>Abelton Live filters out sysexes from the midi stream and keeps them from any VST it hosts.</li><li>FL Studio also does not allow VST plugins it hosts to receive sysex data. (see footnote)</li><li>Studio One doesn't allow recording or playback of sysexes.</li><li>Kontakt does not provide sysex support in its scripting language.</li><li>CSoundAV (CSound in real time~~) can't receive sysexes.</li><li>Jesusonic (Reaper's built-in programming language~~) can't receive sysexes.</li><li>SonicBirth (an AU maker) doesn't even mention sysexes in its manual.</li></ul>This means that synths created with CSoundAV~~, Jesusonic~~ or SonicBirth can't implement MTS. Any synth that does implement MTS won't do so if hosted in Abelton Live or FL Studio or Studio One. Also, Kontakt instruments can't be scripted to respond to MTS. For these reasons microtonalists have been considering alternatives to MTS sysexes.<br />		<ul><li>Abelton Live filters out sysexes from the midi stream and keeps them from any VST it hosts.</li><li>FL Studio also does not allow VST plugins it hosts to receive sysex data. (see footnote)</li><li>Studio One doesn't allow recording or playback of sysexes.</li><li>Kontakt does not provide sysex support in its scripting language.</li><li>CSoundAV (CSound in real time) can't receive sysexes.</li><li>SonicBirth (an AU maker) doesn't even mention sysexes in its manual.</li></ul>This means that synths created with CSoundAV or SonicBirth can't implement MTS. Any synth that does implement MTS won't do so if hosted in Abelton Live or FL Studio or Studio One. Also, Kontakt instruments can't be scripted to respond to MTS. For these reasons microtonalists have been considering alternatives to MTS sysexes.<br />
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	The powers that be will probably never change the midi spec to give us what we want, a non-sysex method for tuning individual notes. So we've decided to simply create a new unofficial microtuning method. The plan is to have the new method supported by all the major midi tuning software packages, aka <u><strong>retuners</strong></u>: Alt-tuner, Bounce, Custom Scale Editor, Fractal Tune Smithy, LMSO, Scala, etc.<br />		The powers that be will probably never change the midi spec to give us what we want, a non-sysex method for tuning individual notes. So we've decided to simply create a new unofficial microtuning method. The plan is to have the new method supported by all the major midi tuning software packages, aka <u><strong>retuners</strong></u>: Alt-tuner, Bounce, Custom Scale Editor, Fractal Tune Smithy, LMSO, Scala, etc.<br />
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	The new method uses keyswitches for the 5 highest keys, 123-127. If middle C is C4, these are notes D#9 to G9. These keyswitches are generated by software, not played by the musician. The velocity of the keyswitches is not actually a velocity, but 1 byte of tuning information. Keyswitch F#9's velocity is actually the input note, keyswitch F9's velocity is the output note, and keyswitches E9 and D#9's velocities are the pitch bend, in the exact same format as the 2 7-bit data bytes of the standard midi pitch bend message. This makes it easier for the synth developer or designer, because he has already written code that handles physical pitch bend wheel movement, and can just reuse it to handle tuning keyswitches. Because the keyswitch bend range is fixed at 50¢, the tuning resolution is 0.0061¢. Thus 00 00 = -50¢, 40 00 = 0¢, and 7F FF = +49.9939¢.		The new method uses keyswitches for the 5 highest keys, 123-127. If middle C is C4, these are notes D#9 to G9. These keyswitches are generated by software, not played by the musician. The velocity of the keyswitches is not actually a velocity, but 1 byte of tuning information. Keyswitch F#9's velocity is actually the input note, keyswitch F9's velocity is the output note, and keyswitches E9 and D#9's velocities are the pitch bend, in the exact same format as the 2 7-bit data bytes of the standard midi pitch bend message. This makes it easier for the synth developer or designer, because he has already written code that handles physical pitch bend wheel movement, and can just reuse it to handle tuning keyswitches. Because the keyswitch bend range is fixed at 50¢, the tuning resolution is 0.0061¢. Thus 00 00 = -50¢, 40 00 = 0¢, and 7F 7F = +49.9939¢.

	Each keyswitch note-on needs to have a matching note-off, to avoid being misinterpreted and possibly blocked by the DAW or other environment. To this end, a zero-velocity note-on follows immediately. To bend note nn on channel x to note mm with bend of yyzz would take up to 4 note-on messages and 4 note-off messages. In hexadecimal the midi looks like this:		Each keyswitch note-on needs to have a matching note-off, to avoid being misinterpreted and possibly blocked by the DAW or other environment. To this end, a zero-velocity note-on follows immediately. To bend note nn on channel x to note mm with bend of yyzz would take up to 4 note-on messages and 4 note-off messages. In hexadecimal the midi looks like this:
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	<br />		<br />
	The new method uses keyswitches for the 5 highest keys, 123-127. If middle C is C4, these are notes D#9 to G9. These keyswitches are generated by software, not played by the musician. The velocity of the keyswitches is not actually a velocity, but 1 byte of tuning information. Keyswitch F#9's velocity is actually the input note, keyswitch F9's velocity is the output note, and keyswitches E9 and D#9's velocities are the pitch bend, in the exact same format as the 2 7-bit data bytes of the standard midi pitch bend message. This makes it easier for the synth developer or designer, because he has already written code that handles physical pitch bend wheel movement, and can just reuse it to handle tuning keyswitches. Because the keyswitch bend range is fixed at 50¢, the tuning resolution is 0.0061¢. Thus 00 00 = -50¢, 40 00 = 0¢, and 7F FF = +49.9939¢.<br />		The new method uses keyswitches for the 5 highest keys, 123-127. If middle C is C4, these are notes D#9 to G9. These keyswitches are generated by software, not played by the musician. The velocity of the keyswitches is not actually a velocity, but 1 byte of tuning information. Keyswitch F#9's velocity is actually the input note, keyswitch F9's velocity is the output note, and keyswitches E9 and D#9's velocities are the pitch bend, in the exact same format as the 2 7-bit data bytes of the standard midi pitch bend message. This makes it easier for the synth developer or designer, because he has already written code that handles physical pitch bend wheel movement, and can just reuse it to handle tuning keyswitches. Because the keyswitch bend range is fixed at 50¢, the tuning resolution is 0.0061¢. Thus 00 00 = -50¢, 40 00 = 0¢, and 7F 7F = +49.9939¢.<br />
	<br />		<br />
	Each keyswitch note-on needs to have a matching note-off, to avoid being misinterpreted and possibly blocked by the DAW or other environment. To this end, a zero-velocity note-on follows immediately. To bend note nn on channel x to note mm with bend of yyzz would take up to 4 note-on messages and 4 note-off messages. In hexadecimal the midi looks like this:<br />		Each keyswitch note-on needs to have a matching note-off, to avoid being misinterpreted and possibly blocked by the DAW or other environment. To this end, a zero-velocity note-on follows immediately. To bend note nn on channel x to note mm with bend of yyzz would take up to 4 note-on messages and 4 note-off messages. In hexadecimal the midi looks like this:<br />

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	G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 01 7F 00 (reset all notes on channel c)		G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 01 7F 00 (reset all notes on channel c)

	Because note-ons with velocity zero are interpreted as note-offs, a message conveying a zero value for the note or the bend must be transmitted via the G9 keyswitch, using velocities 2 through 5, like so:		Because note-ons with velocity zero are interpreted as note-offs, a message conveying a zero value for the note or the bend must be transmitted via the G9 keyswitch, using velocities 126 through 123, like so:

	G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 02 7F 00 (set input note to #0)		G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7E 7F 00 (set input note to #0)
	G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 03 7F 00 (set output note to the C five octaves below middle-C)		G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7D 7F 00 (set output note to the C five octaves below middle-C)
	G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 04 7F 00 (set coarse bend to 0¢)		G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7C 7F 00 (set coarse bend to 0¢)
	G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 05 7F 00 (set fine bend to 0¢)		G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7B 7F 00 (set fine bend to 0¢)

			Thus 9c 7F xx 7F 00 replaces 9c xx 00 xx 00.

	To reset an individual note nn on channel c to standard pitch (assuming nn > 0), and using running status. Note that in this example, the G9 keyswitch with a velocity of 5 indicates "end of tuning message":		To reset an individual note nn on channel c to standard pitch (assuming nn > 0), and using running status. Note that in this example, the G9 keyswitch with a velocity of 5 indicates "end of tuning message":
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	Because note-ons with velocity zero are interpreted as note-offs, a message conveying a zero value for the note or the bend must be transmitted via the G9 keyswitch, using velocities 2 through 5, like so:<br />		Because note-ons with velocity zero are interpreted as note-offs, a message conveying a zero value for the note or the bend must be transmitted via the G9 keyswitch, using velocities 126 through 123, like so:<br />
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			G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7E 7F 00 (set input note to #0)<br />
			G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7D 7F 00 (set output note to the C five octaves below middle-C)<br />
			G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7C 7F 00 (set coarse bend to 0¢)<br />
			G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 7B 7F 00 (set fine bend to 0¢)<br />
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	~~G9 note-on/note-off:~~ 9c 7F 02 7F 00 ~~(set input note to #0)<br />~~		Thus 9c 7F xx 7F 00 replaces 9c xx 00 xx 00.<br />
	~~G9 note-on/note-off:~~ 9c ~~7F 03 7F~~ 00 ~~(set output note to the C five octaves below middle-C)<br />~~
	~~G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 04 7F 00 (set coarse bend to 0¢)<br />~~
	~~G9 note-on/note-off: 9c 7F 05 7F~~ 00 ~~(set fine bend to 0¢)~~<br />
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	To reset an individual note nn on channel c to standard pitch (assuming nn &gt; 0), and using running status. Note that in this example, the G9 keyswitch with a velocity of 5 indicates &quot;end of tuning message&quot;:<br />		To reset an individual note nn on channel c to standard pitch (assuming nn &gt; 0), and using running status. Note that in this example, the G9 keyswitch with a velocity of 5 indicates &quot;end of tuning message&quot;:<br />
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