Lumatone mapping for 97edo - Revision history

Lucius Chiaraviglio: Add Bryan Deister's quasi-diatonic mapping; fix wording in Unnamed high-limit temperament mapping

2025-11-12T07:06:22Z

Add Bryan Deister's quasi-diatonic mapping; fix wording in Unnamed high-limit temperament mapping

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	Despite the missing notes, [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U1X3oo9CGHg ''Washing Machine Heart - Mitski (microtonal cover in 97edo)''] (2025).		Despite the missing notes, [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U1X3oo9CGHg ''Washing Machine Heart - Mitski (microtonal cover in 97edo)''] (2025).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=83\|xstep=15\|ystep=-4}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=83\|xstep=15\|ystep=-4}}

			=== Quasi-diatonic ===
			A quasi-diatonic layout is also possible, which functions similarly to a diatonic mapping, but with the octaves shifting pitch class up by 1\97 with each higher octave. Thus, despite the missed notes, all notes are accessible in some octaves. [[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated this in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6iXy1D9RZ-U ''Charlie's Inferno - That Handsome Devil (microtonal cover in 97edo)''] (2025), with the MIDI mapping set to octave 1 \| octave 2 \| octave 2 \| octave 3 \| octave 3 to get all of the notes within each octave other than the bass, at the cost of less range. (In the demonstration video, note 0 is also shifted to appear where note 2 appears here.)
			{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=93\|xstep=16\|ystep=-7}}

	== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==		== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==

	[[Bryan Deister]] has used ~~the~~ [[16L 1s]]/[[15L 7s]] ~~layout for [[97edo]]~~, as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDdKO3-RL4 ''microtonal improvisation in 97edo''] (2025). Although 97edo is at the intersection of [[Immunity]] and [[Orson]], this layout does not closely match either temperament, instead using a rightward generator 6\97 which is very close to [[24/23]], and an upward generator 5\97 which is very close to [[29/28]]. The range is less than 2 octaves, and the octaves slant upwards if following the 16L 1s scale but are nearly level if following the 15L 7s scale; all notes are represented at least once (although getting this within a full 0 to 0 octave requires shifting the 0 point 1 key right from Bryan Deister's usual placement in the lower left corner, to avoid cutting off some notes on the left end).		[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[97edo]] that provides both [[16L 1s]] and [[15L 7s]] scales (in both cases with 6:1 step ratio), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDdKO3-RL4 ''microtonal improvisation in 97edo''] (2025). Although 97edo is at the intersection of [[Immunity]] and [[Orson]], this layout does not closely match either temperament, instead using a rightward generator 6\97 which is very close to [[24/23]], and an upward generator 5\97 which is very close to [[29/28]]. The range is less than 2 octaves, and the octaves slant upwards if following the 16L 1s scale but are nearly level if following the 15L 7s scale; all notes are represented at least once (although getting this within a full 0 to 0 octave requires shifting the 0 point 1 key right from Bryan Deister's usual placement in the lower left corner, to avoid cutting off some notes on the left end).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=6\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=6\|ystep=-5}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Diatonic */ Add sub-section headings and demo video

2025-11-12T06:11:40Z

Diatonic: Add sub-section headings and demo video

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	== Diatonic ==		== Diatonic ==
	If not for the problem of failing to cover the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping to use at the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val).		If not for the problem of failing to cover the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping to use at the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val). The bb (highly sharp) val falls on [[Magic]]; but for Magic, the fifth is not the generator, and optimal tunings for Magic have a better fifth anyway, so a diatonic mapping does not suit the purpose of using 97edo in a Magic-like temperament (assuming a derivative that gives easy access to both the sharp fifth and the patent fifth), even if one had a hypothetical XL-sized Lumatone.

			=== Sharp fifth (patent val) ===
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=17\|ystep=-11}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=17\|ystep=-11}}

			=== Flat fifth (b val) ===
			Despite the missing notes, [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/U1X3oo9CGHg ''Washing Machine Heart - Mitski (microtonal cover in 97edo)''] (2025).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=83\|xstep=15\|ystep=-4}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=83\|xstep=15\|ystep=-4}}

	The bb (highly sharp) val falls on [[Magic]]; but for Magic, the fifth is not the generator, and optimal tunings for Magic have a better fifth anyway, so a diatonic mapping does not suit the purpose of using 97edo in a Magic-like temperament (assuming a derivative that gives easy access to both the sharp fifth and the patent fifth), even if one had a hypothetical XL-sized Lumatone.

	== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==		== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Diatonic */ Fix typo

2025-11-10T18:54:34Z

Diatonic: Fix typo

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	== Diatonic ==		== Diatonic ==
	If not for the problem of failing to ~~cove~~ the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping to use at the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val).		If not for the problem of failing to cover the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping to use at the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=17\|ystep=-11}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=17\|ystep=-11}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Unnamed high-limit temperament */ This mapping also supports 15L 7s

2025-05-26T20:45:21Z

Unnamed high-limit temperament: This mapping also supports 15L 7s

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	== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==		== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==

	[[Bryan Deister]] has used the [[16L 1s]] layout for [[97edo]], as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDdKO3-RL4 ''microtonal improvisation in 97edo''] (2025). Although 97edo is at the intersection of [[Immunity]] and [[Orson]], this layout does not closely match either temperament, instead using a rightward generator 6\97 which is very close to [[24/23]], and an upward generator 5\97 which is very close to [[29/28]]. The range is less than 2 octaves, and the octaves slant upwards, but all notes are represented at least once (although getting this within a full 0 to 0 octave requires shifting the 0 point 1 key right from Bryan Deister's usual placement in the lower left corner, to avoid cutting off some notes on the left end).		[[Bryan Deister]] has used the [[16L 1s]]/[[15L 7s]] layout for [[97edo]], as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDdKO3-RL4 ''microtonal improvisation in 97edo''] (2025). Although 97edo is at the intersection of [[Immunity]] and [[Orson]], this layout does not closely match either temperament, instead using a rightward generator 6\97 which is very close to [[24/23]], and an upward generator 5\97 which is very close to [[29/28]]. The range is less than 2 octaves, and the octaves slant upwards if following the 16L 1s scale but are nearly level if following the 15L 7s scale; all notes are represented at least once (although getting this within a full 0 to 0 octave requires shifting the 0 point 1 key right from Bryan Deister's usual placement in the lower left corner, to avoid cutting off some notes on the left end).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=6\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=6\|ystep=-5}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Diatonic */ Fix wording

2025-04-18T08:34:02Z

Diatonic: Fix wording

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	== Diatonic ==		== Diatonic ==
	If not for the problem of failing to cove the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping ~~for~~ the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val).		If not for the problem of failing to cove the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping to use at the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=17\|ystep=-11}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=97\|start=10\|xstep=17\|ystep=-11}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: Bryan Deister created a workable Lumatone mapping for 97edo, so adding this along with the obligatory diatonic mappings

2025-04-18T05:51:10Z

Bryan Deister created a workable Lumatone mapping for 97edo, so adding this along with the obligatory diatonic mappings

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There are many conceivable ways to map [[97edo]] onto the onto the Lumatone keyboard. However, the [[Standard Lumatone mapping for Pythagorean]] is unable to cover the full gamut of every octave, with the mildly sharp ([[patent val]]), flat (b val), and highly sharp (bb val) versions having many skipped notes.

== Diatonic ==
If not for the problem of failing to cove the complete gamut (such as on a hypothetical XL-size Lumatone having at least 485 keys within the span of five octaves), the mildly sharp (patent val) version would be a respectable mapping for the intersection of [[Immunity]] with [[Orson]]; while the flat version would be a plausible (although overly complex) [[Flattone]] mapping (using the 97bcc val).
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=97|start=10|xstep=17|ystep=-11}}

{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=97|start=83|xstep=15|ystep=-4}}

The bb (highly sharp) val falls on [[Magic]]; but for Magic, the fifth is not the generator, and optimal tunings for Magic have a better fifth anyway, so a diatonic mapping does not suit the purpose of using 97edo in a Magic-like temperament (assuming a derivative that gives easy access to both the sharp fifth and the patent fifth), even if one had a hypothetical XL-sized Lumatone.

== Unnamed high-limit temperament ==

[[Bryan Deister]] has used the [[16L 1s]] layout for [[97edo]], as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDdKO3-RL4 ''microtonal improvisation in 97edo''] (2025). Although 97edo is at the intersection of [[Immunity]] and [[Orson]], this layout does not closely match either temperament, instead using a rightward generator 6\97 which is very close to [[24/23]], and an upward generator 5\97 which is very close to [[29/28]]. The range is less than 2 octaves, and the octaves slant upwards, but all notes are represented at least once (although getting this within a full 0 to 0 octave requires shifting the 0 point 1 key right from Bryan Deister's usual placement in the lower left corner, to avoid cutting off some notes on the left end).
{{Lumatone EDO mapping|n=97|start=10|xstep=6|ystep=-5}}

{{Navbox Lumatone}}