Lumatone mapping for 30edo - Revision history

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Antidiatonic */ Add demo video

2026-06-04T03:58:20Z

Antidiatonic: Add demo video

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	== Antidiatonic ==		== Antidiatonic ==
	The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.		The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament. [[Bryan Deister]] demonstrates this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZlXSZDSlH2c ''Fantasy in 30edo''] (2026).
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Bryan Deister's 2 mappings */ Add another Bryan Deister mapping (Bison/Sensi), fix section headings

2026-01-21T23:22:18Z

Bryan Deister's 2 mappings: Add another Bryan Deister mapping (Bison/Sensi), fix section headings

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	== Bryan Deister'~~s 2 mappings~~ ==		== Bison (Porwell + Sensi) ==
			[[Bryan Deister]] has demonstrated a [[6L 2s]] (4:3 step ratio) [[Sensipent_family#Bison\|Bison]] mapping for [[30edo]] in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O6nOiLxYPdE ''<nowiki>Ferris Wheel - 30edo [short]</nowiki>''] (2026), with Bison being the intersection of [[Porwell temperaments\|Porwell]] with [[Sensi]]. The (rightward) generator for this is 4\30, which is a somewhat sharp septimal neutral second ~[[35/32]], and two of them yield a somewhat sharp classic major third ~[[6/5]] (the Porwell comma [[6144/6125]] is tempered out). The range is just under 4½ octaves with no missing notes and plenty of repeats to mitigate vertical wraparounds, and the octaves are near enough to level to be able to consider dividing the layout into two manuals if vertical wraparound mitigation is not needed.
			{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=28\|xstep=4\|ystep=-1}}

			== Bryan Deister's mappings derived from 29edo ==
	[[Bryan Deister]] has used layouts for [[30edo]] that were inspired by the diatonic layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament). The original version is demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the row segments that include note 0 are colored solid red). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.		[[Bryan Deister]] has used layouts for [[30edo]] that were inspired by the diatonic layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament). The original version is demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the row segments that include note 0 are colored solid red). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}

			=== Flipped version ===
	A version of this in which the upwards and down-right generators of the above mapping are interchanged is demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxCWDYUvYc ''30edo improv''] (2025). Octaves alternate between far/near and middle, superimposed on an overall mild downwards slant; the range is somewhat more than that of the original version, at slightly over five octaves.		A version of this in which the upwards and down-right generators of the above mapping are interchanged is demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxCWDYUvYc ''30edo improv''] (2025). Octaves alternate between far/near and middle, superimposed on an overall mild downwards slant; the range is somewhat more than that of the original version, at slightly over five octaves.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=0\|xstep=5\|ystep=-2}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=0\|xstep=5\|ystep=-2}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Bryan Deister's mapping */ Add another Bryan Deister mapping related to the first

2025-12-16T10:57:23Z

Bryan Deister's mapping: Add another Bryan Deister mapping related to the first

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	== Bryan Deister's ~~mapping~~ ==		== Bryan Deister's 2 mappings ==

	[[Bryan Deister]] has used ~~a layout~~ for [[30edo]] that ~~was~~ inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament)~~, as~~ demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the row segments that include note 0 are colored solid red). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.		[[Bryan Deister]] has used layouts for [[30edo]] that were inspired by the diatonic layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament). The original version is demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the row segments that include note 0 are colored solid red). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}

			A version of this in which the upwards and down-right generators of the above mapping are interchanged is demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TxCWDYUvYc ''30edo improv''] (2025). Octaves alternate between far/near and middle, superimposed on an overall mild downwards slant; the range is somewhat more than that of the original version, at slightly over five octaves.
			{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=0\|xstep=5\|ystep=-2}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Bryan Deister's mapping */ Color correction

2025-03-27T16:23:11Z

Bryan Deister's mapping: Color correction

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	== Bryan Deister's mapping ==		== Bryan Deister's mapping ==

	[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[30edo]] that was inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the ~~lines~~ that include note 0 are colored red ~~with light pink cores~~). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.		[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[30edo]] that was inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the row segments that include note 0 are colored solid red). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: Add Bryan Deister's mapping

2025-03-27T05:42:38Z

Add Bryan Deister's mapping

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	If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.		If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}

			== Bryan Deister's mapping ==

			[[Bryan Deister]] has used a layout for [[30edo]] that was inspired by the layout for [[29edo]] (rather than being made for any specific temperament), as demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP3HGr3ZD70&lc=UgxFBmbxZa5dF4ZPj0F4AaABAg.AFzcn1LkVZNAG4JYIvXZvZ ''minuet in 30edo''] (2025). The right-moving generator is a somewhat flat Pythagorean whole tone (~[[9/8]], 5\30; and in the video, the lines that include note 0 are colored red with light pink cores). The up-moving generator is a somewhat flat tridecimal supraminor second (~[[14/13]], 3\30); neither would be able access the full gamut on its own, but together they cover the full gamut with a generous allotment of repeated notes (indicating that if this layout was to represent a particular temperament, that would have to be a rank-3 temperament if having an octave period, or a rank-2 temperament dividing the octave into multiple periods). The range is a bit under five octaves, with octaves slanting up (while wrapping around) at the same angle as the right-moving generator.
			{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=4\|xstep=5\|ystep=-3}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

ArrowHead294 at 14:51, 23 March 2025

2025-03-23T14:51:41Z

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	{{Lumatone mapping intro}} Many other mappings will also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[~~Pelogic_family~~#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.		{{Lumatone mapping intro}} Many other mappings will also fail to cover the whole gamut.

			== Antidiatonic ==
			The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}

			== Lovecraft ==
	If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.		If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

ArrowHead294 at 18:16, 14 March 2025

2025-03-14T18:16:14Z

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	~~There are many conceivable ways to map [[30edo]] onto the [[Lumatone]] keyboard. However, as it has multiple small rings of 5ths, the [[Standard~~ Lumatone mapping ~~for Pythagorean]] is not one of them.~~ Many other mappings also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic_family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.		{{Lumatone mapping intro}} Many other mappings will also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic_family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}

ArrowHead294 at 16:55, 11 February 2025

2025-02-11T16:55:38Z

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	There are many conceivable ways to map [[30edo]] onto the [[Lumatone]] keyboard. However, as it has multiple small rings of 5ths, the [[Standard Lumatone mapping for Pythagorean]] is not one of them. Many other mappings also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic_family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.		There are many conceivable ways to map [[30edo]] onto the [[Lumatone]] keyboard. However, as it has multiple small rings of 5ths, the [[Standard Lumatone mapping for Pythagorean]] is not one of them. Many other mappings also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic_family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}


	If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.		If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}

	{{Lumatone ~~mapping navigation~~}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}
	~~[[Category:Lumatone mappings]][[Category:30edo]]~~

Lériendil: chromatic pairs link

2024-12-20T05:15:03Z

chromatic pairs link

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	If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[~~Chromatic_pairs~~#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.		If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}

	{{Lumatone mapping navigation}}		{{Lumatone mapping navigation}}
	[[Category:Lumatone mappings]][[Category:30edo]]		[[Category:Lumatone mappings]][[Category:30edo]]

BudjarnLambeth: Template auto-categories only half-working and behaving strangely on this specific page, so re added manual ones Category:Lumatone mappingsCategory:30edo

2024-11-30T02:11:59Z

Template auto-categories only half-working and behaving strangely on this specific page, so re added manual ones Category:Lumatone mappings Category:30edo

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	{{Lumatone mapping navigation}}		{{Lumatone mapping navigation}}
			[[Category:Lumatone mappings]][[Category:30edo]]

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	There are many conceivable ways to map [[30edo]] onto the [[Lumatone]] keyboard. However, as it has multiple small rings of 5ths, the [[Standard Lumatone mapping for Pythagorean]] is not one of them. Many other mappings also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic_family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.		There are many conceivable ways to map [[30edo]] onto the [[Lumatone]] keyboard. However, as it has multiple small rings of 5ths, the [[Standard Lumatone mapping for Pythagorean]] is not one of them. Many other mappings also fail to cover the whole gamut. The closest thing to a diatonic scale is using the bc val, which is a near optimal tuning for [[Pelogic_family#Mavila\|Mavila]] temperament.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=18\|xstep=4\|ystep=1}}


	If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.		If you want to concentrate on the more xenharmonic consonances available, the [[No-threes subgroup temperaments#Lovecraft\|Lovecraft]] mapping is about as good as you can get.
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=30\|start=9\|xstep=7\|ystep=-5}}

	{{Lumatone ~~mapping navigation~~}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}
	~~[[Category:Lumatone mappings]][[Category:30edo]]~~