Lumatone mapping for 17edo - Revision history

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Neutral thirds */ Add demo video for first version

2026-04-28T03:44:48Z

Neutral thirds: Add demo video for first version

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	== Neutral thirds ==		== Neutral thirds ==
	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] has about the same range as diatonic, and has a regular enough pattern of octave position that it just might be possible to finagle triple manuals out of it (although that would be even easier in diatonic with its perfectly straight octaves and almost as much range).		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] has about the same range as diatonic, and has a regular enough pattern of octave position that it just might be possible to finagle triple manuals out of it (although that would be even easier in diatonic with its perfectly straight octaves and almost as much range). [[Bryan Deister]] demonstrates this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UEUtixVNbw4 ''17edo groove''] (2026).

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Neutral thirds */ Add demo video for dual manual version of rotated mapping

2026-03-27T06:12:17Z

Neutral thirds: Add demo video for dual manual version of rotated mapping

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	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}

	A rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual has slightly more range than diatonic (at 5½ octaves), and has a regular enough pattern of octave position that it just might be possible to finagle dual manuals out of it, although they would be rather lopsided. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jwCtNQz2DZY ''Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astley (microtonal cover in 17edo)''] (2026).		A rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual has slightly more range than diatonic (at 5½ octaves), and has a regular enough pattern of octave position that it just might be possible to finagle dual manuals out of it, although they would be rather lopsided. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jwCtNQz2DZY ''Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astley (microtonal cover in 17edo)''] (2026), and tested the dual manual version in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kZTueRQLLtg ''Twilight Syndrome - Danganronpa 2 (microtonal cover in 17edo)''] (2026).

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Neutral thirds */ Fill in description a bit, and add demo video for rotated neutral thirds — and where else can you get a Rick Roll and a Lumatone demo at the same time?

2026-03-01T10:47:53Z

Neutral thirds: Fill in description a bit, and add demo video for rotated neutral thirds — and where else can you get a Rick Roll and a Lumatone demo at the same time?

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	== Neutral thirds ==		== Neutral thirds ==
	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] ~~is:~~		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] has about the same range as diatonic, and has a regular enough pattern of octave position that it just might be possible to finagle triple manuals out of it (although that would be even easier in diatonic with its perfectly straight octaves and almost as much range).

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}

	~~Or a~~ rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:		A rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual has slightly more range than diatonic (at 5½ octaves), and has a regular enough pattern of octave position that it just might be possible to finagle dual manuals out of it, although they would be rather lopsided. [[Bryan Deister]] has used this mapping in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jwCtNQz2DZY ''Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astley (microtonal cover in 17edo)''] (2026).

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}

FloraC: Style

2025-12-21T08:51:43Z

Style

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	== Neutral thirds ==		== Neutral thirds ==
	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}

	Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:		Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}

	== Bleu + ~~Hemif~~/~~Hemififths~~ + ~~Suhajira~~ ==		== Bleu + hemif/hemififths + suhajira ==
	Another mapping having an easily accessible neutral third is [[Bryan Deister]]'s mapping that supports both an [[8L 1s]] scale, as in [[~~No-fives subgroup temperaments#Bleu\|Bleu~~]] temperament and a [[7L 3s]] scale as in [[~~No-fives subgroup temperaments#Hemif\|Hemif~~]]/[[~~Hemififths~~]] and [[~~Rastmic clan#Suhajira\|Suhajira~~]] temperaments, in both cases with a 2:1 step ratio, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1bhWp0wev4c ''17edo improv''] (2025). The ~~Bleu~~ generator 2\17 (an augmented unison or neutral second) is very simple in key movements, being one step right from the root note; this functions as flat ~[[12/11]], slightly sharp ~[[13/12]], sharp ~[[14/13]], and slightly flat ~[[25/23]]. The generator for the other temperaments is 5\17 (a diminished fourth or neutral third), which corresponds to two keys right plus one key up or (preferably) down-right. The range is just under 3½ octaves (although they are almost perfectly level), but on the other hand, if one is willing to trade out easy playing of ~~Bleu~~ (and rearrange the color pattern accordingly), this mapping enables division into three complete middle manuals plus nearly complete top and bottom manuals.		Another mapping having an easily accessible neutral third is [[Bryan Deister]]'s mapping that supports both an [[8L 1s]] scale, as in [[bleu]] temperament and a [[7L 3s]] scale as in [[hemif]]/[[hemififths]] and [[suhajira]] temperaments, in both cases with a 2:1 step ratio, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1bhWp0wev4c ''17edo improv''] (2025). The bleu generator 2\17 (an augmented unison or neutral second) is very simple in key movements, being one step right from the root note; this functions as flat ~[[12/11]], slightly sharp ~[[13/12]], sharp ~[[14/13]], and slightly flat ~[[25/23]]. The generator for the other temperaments is 5\17 (a diminished fourth or neutral third), which corresponds to two keys right plus one key up or (preferably) down-right. The range is just under 3½ octaves (although they are almost perfectly level), but on the other hand, if one is willing to trade out easy playing of bleu (and rearrange the color pattern accordingly), this mapping enables division into three complete middle manuals plus nearly complete top and bottom manuals.

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=-1}}

	== Squares ==		== Squares ==
	To maximise your range while also keeping octaves near horizontal and making chords easy to play, use the [[squares]] mapping.		To maximise your range while also keeping octaves near horizontal and making chords easy to play, use the [[squares]] mapping.

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=9\|xstep=6\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=9\|xstep=6\|ystep=-1}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Neutral thirds */ Add Bryan Deister's Bleu + Hemif/Hemififths + Suhajira mapping after this

2025-12-21T08:28:55Z

Neutral thirds: Add Bryan Deister's Bleu + Hemif/Hemififths + Suhajira mapping after this

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	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}


	Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:		Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}

			== Bleu + Hemif/Hemififths + Suhajira ==
			Another mapping having an easily accessible neutral third is [[Bryan Deister]]'s mapping that supports both an [[8L 1s]] scale, as in [[No-fives subgroup temperaments#Bleu\|Bleu]] temperament and a [[7L 3s]] scale as in [[No-fives subgroup temperaments#Hemif\|Hemif]]/[[Hemififths]] and [[Rastmic clan#Suhajira\|Suhajira]] temperaments, in both cases with a 2:1 step ratio, demonstrated in [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1bhWp0wev4c ''17edo improv''] (2025). The Bleu generator 2\17 (an augmented unison or neutral second) is very simple in key movements, being one step right from the root note; this functions as flat ~[[12/11]], slightly sharp ~[[13/12]], sharp ~[[14/13]], and slightly flat ~[[25/23]]. The generator for the other temperaments is 5\17 (a diminished fourth or neutral third), which corresponds to two keys right plus one key up or (preferably) down-right. The range is just under 3½ octaves (although they are almost perfectly level), but on the other hand, if one is willing to trade out easy playing of Bleu (and rearrange the color pattern accordingly), this mapping enables division into three complete middle manuals plus nearly complete top and bottom manuals.
			{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=-1}}

	== Squares ==		== Squares ==

ArrowHead294: /* Neutral thirds */

2025-03-23T14:42:15Z

Neutral thirds

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	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}


	Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:		Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:

ArrowHead294 at 14:36, 23 March 2025

2025-03-23T14:36:20Z

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	== Diatonic ==		== Diatonic ==
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=2\|xstep=3\|ystep=-2}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=2\|xstep=3\|ystep=-2}}


	== Neutral thirds ==		== Neutral thirds ==
	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}


	Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:		Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}


	== Squares ==		== Squares ==

ArrowHead294 at 14:31, 23 March 2025

2025-03-23T14:31:14Z

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	{{Lumatone mapping intro}}		{{Lumatone mapping intro}}

			== Diatonic ==
	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=2\|xstep=3\|ystep=-2}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=2\|xstep=3\|ystep=-2}}


			== Neutral thirds ==
	An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:		An alternative arrangement derived from a [[Lumatone mapping for neutral thirds scales]] is:

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=2\|ystep=1}}


	Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:		Or a rotated version of this, resembling the [[Lumatone mapping for 24edo]] given in the official manual, is:

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=0\|xstep=3\|ystep=-1}}


			== Squares ==
	To maximise your range while also keeping octaves near horizontal and making chords easy to play, use the [[squares]] mapping.		To maximise your range while also keeping octaves near horizontal and making chords easy to play, use the [[squares]] mapping.

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=9\|xstep=6\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=9\|xstep=6\|ystep=-1}}

	{{Navbox Lumatone}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}

ArrowHead294 at 18:10, 14 March 2025

2025-03-14T18:10:21Z

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	~~There are many conceivable ways to map [[17edo]] onto the [[Lumatone]] keyboard. Only one, however, agrees with the [[Standard~~ Lumatone mapping ~~for Pythagorean]].~~		{{Lumatone mapping intro}}

	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=2\|xstep=3\|ystep=-2}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=2\|xstep=3\|ystep=-2}}

ArrowHead294: Change to new template name

2025-02-11T16:46:54Z

Change to new template name

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	{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=9\|xstep=6\|ystep=-1}}		{{Lumatone EDO mapping\|n=17\|start=9\|xstep=6\|ystep=-1}}

	{{Lumatone ~~mapping navigation~~}}		{{Navbox Lumatone}}