KDF Fret Numbering - Revision history

TallKite at 07:55, 4 December 2022

2022-12-04T07:55:00Z

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	Mid also refers to mid-2nd, mid-3rd, etc., and low and high also refer to low-C, hi-3 voicing etc. Ambiguity is avoided because when referring to the fretboard, low/mid/high is always immediately followed by either single/double/triple or kite.		Mid also refers to mid-2nd, mid-3rd, etc., and low and high also refer to low-C, [[Hi-lo notation\|hi3]] voicing etc. Ambiguity is avoided because when referring to the fretboard, low/mid/high is always immediately followed by either single/double/triple or kite.

	When speaking of the single dot, double dot, etc., it can be assumed that the low kite is meant, since it's the most comfortable region to play in.		When speaking of the single dot, double dot, etc., it can be assumed that the low kite is meant, since it's the most comfortable region to play in.
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	If you want to make your own dots, here's how:		If you want to make your own dots, here's how:

	From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the appropriate unicode character(s). The unicode characters for hollow dots don't kern as tightly as those for solid dots. So use Unicode Black Circle (U+25CF) ● in 4pt STYXGeneral font for closest kerning. If you don't have that font, see<nowiki/>https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/25cf/fontsupport.htm. Set the vertical height of the dots by manually moving the fingering or by opening the inspector and editing the Y offset.		From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the appropriate unicode character(s). The unicode characters for hollow dots don't kern as tightly as those for solid dots. So use Unicode Black Circle (U+25CF) ● in 4pt STYXGeneral font for closest kerning. If you don't have that font, see<nowiki/>https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/25cf/fontsupport.htm. Set the vertical height of the dots by manually moving the fingering or by opening the inspector and editing the Y offset.
	[[Category:Kite Guitar]]		[[Category:Kite Guitar]]
	[[Category:Guitar]]		[[Category:Guitar]]
	[[Category:Skip fretting]]		[[Category:Skip fretting]]
	[[Category:41edo]]		[[Category:41edo]]

TallKite at 03:22, 3 August 2021

2021-08-03T03:22:01Z

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	=== Using KDF in MuseScore ===		=== Using KDF in MuseScore ===
	In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK.		In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK. Then you can use the Musescore template. Copy an individual fingering from the template (each column has 4 identical fingerings) and paste it onto your tab numbers. Musescore will obviously not play the tab back correctly, since the fret numbers are all 0-3, so turn down the tab volume in the mixer.

	Then you can use ~~this~~ Musescore ~~file as a~~ template. Copy ~~the~~ individual ~~fingerings~~ from each ~~note~~ and paste ~~them~~ onto your tab numbers. Musescore will obviously not play the tab back correctly, since the fret numbers are all 0-3, so turn down the tab volume in the mixer.

	[[File:KDF template.mscz.zip]]		[[File:KDF template.mscz.zip]]
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	If you want to make your own dots, here's how:		If you want to make your own dots, here's how:

	From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the appropriate unicode character(s). The unicode characters for hollow dots don't kern as tightly as those for solid dots. So use Unicode Black Circle (U+25CF) ● in 4pt STYXGeneral font for closest kerning. Set the vertical height of the dots by manually moving the fingering or by opening the inspector and editing the Y offset~~. Once all 9 possible dots look right, you can copy and paste the fingerings onto any number in the tab~~.		From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the appropriate unicode character(s). The unicode characters for hollow dots don't kern as tightly as those for solid dots. So use Unicode Black Circle (U+25CF) ● in 4pt STYXGeneral font for closest kerning. If you don't have that font, see<nowiki/>https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/25cf/fontsupport.htm. Set the vertical height of the dots by manually moving the fingering or by opening the inspector and editing the Y offset.
	[[Category:Kite Guitar]]		[[Category:Kite Guitar]]
	[[Category:Guitar]]		[[Category:Guitar]]
	[[Category:Skip fretting]]		[[Category:Skip fretting]]
	[[Category:41edo]]		[[Category:41edo]]

TallKite: Added more about using musescore

2021-08-03T03:10:30Z

Added more about using musescore

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	The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.		The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.

	In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK. From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the ~~Ring Point ⸰~~ (U+~~2E30~~) ~~and to set the~~ font ~~to FreeSerif~~. ~~For double and triple~~ dots~~, use multiple Ring Points in your~~ fingering. ~~When you are done~~, you can copy and paste ~~this fingering~~ onto any number in the tab.		=== Using KDF in MuseScore ===
			In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK.

			Then you can use this Musescore file as a template. Copy the individual fingerings from each note and paste them onto your tab numbers. Musescore will obviously not play the tab back correctly, since the fret numbers are all 0-3, so turn down the tab volume in the mixer.

			[[File:KDF template.mscz.zip]]

			[[File:KDF template.png\|none\|thumb\|968x968px]]
			If you want to make your own dots, here's how:

			From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the appropriate unicode character(s). The unicode characters for hollow dots don't kern as tightly as those for solid dots. So use Unicode Black Circle (U+25CF) ● in 4pt STYXGeneral font for closest kerning. Set the vertical height of the dots by manually moving the fingering or by opening the inspector and editing the Y offset. Once all 9 possible dots look right, you can copy and paste the fingerings onto any number in the tab.
	[[Category:Kite Guitar]]		[[Category:Kite Guitar]]
	[[Category:Guitar]]		[[Category:Guitar]]
	[[Category:Skip fretting]]		[[Category:Skip fretting]]
	[[Category:41edo]]		[[Category:41edo]]

TallKite at 11:54, 31 July 2021

2021-07-31T11:54:08Z

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	The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.		The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.

	In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK. From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30) and to set the font to FreeSerif. For double and triple dots, ~~paste more~~ Ring Points ~~into~~ your fingering. When you are done, you can copy and paste this fingering onto any number in the tab.		In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK. From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30) and to set the font to FreeSerif. For double and triple dots, use multiple Ring Points in your fingering. When you are done, you can copy and paste this fingering onto any number in the tab.
	[[Category:Kite Guitar]]		[[Category:Kite Guitar]]
	[[Category:Guitar]]		[[Category:Guitar]]
	[[Category:Skip fretting]]		[[Category:Skip fretting]]
	[[Category:41edo]]		[[Category:41edo]]

TallKite: added musescore instructions

2021-07-31T09:16:33Z

added musescore instructions

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	The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.		The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.

			In Musescore ver 3.6, right-click on the tab. Select "Staff/Part Properties", then "Advanced Style Properties". Check "Show fingering in tablature", and click OK. From the fingerings palette, drag over the number 1. There are two sets of numbers in the palette. Use the second set. Numbers from this set go in front of the number, not on top of it. Next edit the text of the fingering to change the "1" to the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30) and to set the font to FreeSerif. For double and triple dots, paste more Ring Points into your fingering. When you are done, you can copy and paste this fingering onto any number in the tab.
	[[Category:Kite Guitar]]		[[Category:Kite Guitar]]
	[[Category:Guitar]]		[[Category:Guitar]]
	[[Category:Skip fretting]]		[[Category:Skip fretting]]
	[[Category:41edo]]		[[Category:41edo]]

TallKite: TallKite moved page Kite Guitar Fret Numbering to KDF Fret Numbering: a better name

2021-06-20T17:29:13Z

TallKite moved page Kite Guitar Fret Numbering to KDF Fret Numbering: a better name

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TallKite at 17:28, 20 June 2021

2021-06-20T17:28:11Z

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	The frets of a [[Kite Guitar\|Kite guitar]] can of course be numbered 0 through 41. But they can also be numbered in a way that reflects the usual fret markings aka dots. This minimizes the mental effort needed to find high-numbered ~~dots~~. This fret numbering system is called '''KDF''' for Kite-Dot-Fret.		The frets of a [[Kite Guitar\|Kite guitar]] can of course be numbered 0 through 41. But they can also be numbered in a way that reflects the usual fret markings aka dots. This minimizes the mental effort needed to find high-numbered frets. This fret numbering system is called '''KDF''' for Kite-Dot-Fret.

	There are two types of Kite guitar fretboards, even-frets and odd-frets. In the former, all or almost all of the frets are an even number of edosteps from the nut. In the latter, it's an odd number. The even-fret layout is for isomorphic tunings and the odd-frets layout is for open tunings. ~~This fret~~ numbering ~~system~~ is for even-frets fretboards only.		There are two types of Kite guitar fretboards, even-frets and odd-frets. In the former, all or almost all of the frets are an even number of edosteps from the nut. In the latter, it's an odd number. The even-fret layout is for isomorphic tunings and the odd-frets layout is for open tunings. KDF numbering is for even-frets fretboards only.
	{\| class="wikitable right-1 center-2 center-3 center-4 left-5 left-6"		{\| class="wikitable right-1 center-2 center-3 center-4 left-5 left-6"
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	On an even-frets Kite guitar, every 4th fret is marked with either a single dot, a double dot or a triple dot. The 41 frets have 10 marked frets that are single-double-triple-single-double-triple-single-double-triple-single. This makes it easy to label chord grids with dots on the side, not fret numbers. By a wonderful coincidence, these dots trace out three kite shapes! The three kites are named low, mid and high. The top of the low kite is also the bottom of the mid kite. For numbering purposes, this dot is thought of as the latter, not the former. Likewise the 7th dot on the 28th fret is the bottom of the high kite, not the top of the mid kite. The 10 dots are named as:		On an even-frets Kite guitar, every 4th fret is marked with either a single dot, a double dot or a triple dot. The 41 frets have 10 marked frets that are single-double-triple-single-double-triple-single-double-triple-single. This makes it easy to label chord grids with dots on the side, not fret numbers. By a wonderful coincidence, these 10 sets of dots trace out three kite shapes! The three kites are named low, mid and high. The top of the low kite is also the bottom of the mid kite. For numbering purposes, this dot is thought of as the latter, not the former. Likewise the 7th dot on the 28th fret is the bottom of the high kite, not the top of the mid kite. The 10 dots are named as:

	* low-single, low-double, low-triple (the low kite)		* low-single, low-double, low-triple (the low kite)
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	When speaking of the single dot, double dot, etc., it can be assumed that the low kite is meant, since it's the most comfortable region to play in.		When speaking of the single dot, double dot, etc., it can be assumed that the low kite is meant, since it's the most comfortable region to play in.

	For guitar tablature, a compact written form of the dot names is needed. A dot in the low kite is indicated by one, two or three commas (the actual punctuation mark ","). The comma was chosen because of its compact shape, tight kerning, and tail (a period would be too easy to miss). Also, it literally sits low on the line. For similar reasons, a high dot is indicated by one, two or three apostrophes. (Or an apostrophe, a quote mark, and a quote mark plus an apostrophe.) For the mid dot, there is unfortunately no obvious punctuation mark. A hyphen would tend to be obscured by the lines on the tablature staff. The best ASCII option is a tilde, unfortunately not at all compact. The most dot-like Unicode characters are the Subscripted Letter O ₒ (U+2092), the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30), and the ~~degree sign~~ ° (U+00B0). Other possibilities for the low dot are the Tifinagh Letter Ya ⴰ (U+2D30) and the Combining Square Below ̻ (U+033B).		For guitar tablature, a compact written form of the dot names is needed. A dot in the low kite is indicated by one, two or three commas (the actual punctuation mark ","). The comma was chosen because of its compact shape, tight kerning, and tail (a period would be too easy to miss). Also, it literally sits low on the line. For similar reasons, a high dot is indicated by one, two or three apostrophes. (Or an apostrophe, a quote mark, and a quote mark plus an apostrophe.) For the mid dot, there is unfortunately no obvious punctuation mark. A hyphen would tend to be obscured by the lines on the tablature staff. The best ASCII option is a tilde, unfortunately not at all compact. The most dot-like Unicode characters are the Subscripted Letter O ₒ (U+2092), the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30), and the Degree Sign ° (U+00B0). Other possibilities for the low dot are the Tifinagh Letter Ya ⴰ (U+2D30) and the Combining Square Below ̻ (U+033B).

	The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot, zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.		The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot: zero, one, two or three frets. The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.
	[[Category:Kite Guitar]]		[[Category:Kite Guitar]]
	[[Category:Guitar]]		[[Category:Guitar]]
	[[Category:Skip fretting]]		[[Category:Skip fretting]]
	[[Category:41edo]]		[[Category:41edo]]

TallKite: added the KDF name

2021-06-18T07:31:16Z

added the KDF name

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-The frets of a [[Kite Guitar|Kite guitar]] can of course be numbered 0 through 41. But they can also be numbered in a way that reflects the usual fret markings aka dots. This minimizes the mental effort needed to find high-numbered dots. This fret numbering system is called "counting kites".
+The frets of a [[Kite Guitar|Kite guitar]] can of course be numbered 0 through 41. But they can also be numbered in a way that reflects the usual fret markings aka dots. This minimizes the mental effort needed to find high-numbered dots. This fret numbering system is called '''KDF''' for Kite-Dot-Fret.
 There are two types of Kite guitar fretboards, even-frets and odd-frets. In the former, all or almost all of the frets are an even number of edosteps from the nut. In the latter, it's an odd number. The even-fret layout is for isomorphic tunings and the odd-frets layout is for open tunings. This fret numbering system is for even-frets fretboards only.
 {| class="wikitable right-1 center-2 center-3 center-4 left-5 left-6"
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-The main use of this fret numbering is for tab. But it can also be used for chords, and x8x759 can be written as x ,,0 x ,3 ,1 ,,1.
+On an even-frets Kite guitar, every 4th fret is marked with either a single dot, a double dot or a triple dot. The 41 frets have 10 marked frets that are single-double-triple-single-double-triple-single-double-triple-single. This makes it easy to label chord grids with dots on the side, not fret numbers. By a wonderful coincidence, these dots trace out three kite shapes! The three kites are named low, mid and high. The top of the low kite is also the bottom of the mid kite. For numbering purposes, this dot is thought of as the latter, not the former. Likewise the 7th dot on the 28th fret is the bottom of the high kite, not the top of the mid kite. The 10 dots are named as:
 [[Category:Kite Guitar]]
 [[Category:Guitar]]
 [[Category:Skip fretting]]
 [[Category:41edo]]

TallKite at 09:08, 10 June 2021

2021-06-10T09:08:49Z

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	When speaking of the single dot, double dot, etc., it can be assumed that the low kite is meant, since it's the most comfortable region to play in.		When speaking of the single dot, double dot, etc., it can be assumed that the low kite is meant, since it's the most comfortable region to play in.

	For guitar tablature, a compact written form of the dot names is needed. A dot in the low kite is indicated by one, two or three commas (the actual punctuation mark ","). The comma was chosen because of its compact shape, tight kerning, and tail (a period would be too easy to miss). Also, it literally sits low on the line. For similar reasons, a high dot is indicated by one, two or three apostrophes. (Or an apostrophe, a quote mark, and a quote mark plus an apostrophe.) For the mid dot, there is unfortunately no obvious punctuation mark. A hyphen would tend to be obscured by the lines on the tablature staff. The best ASCII option is a tilde, unfortunately not at all compact. The most dot-like Unicode characters are the Subscripted Letter O ₒ (U+2092~~) or ̻ (U+033B~~), the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30), and the degree sign ° (U+00B0). ~~Another possibility~~ for the low dot is the Tifinagh Letter Ya ⴰ (U+2D30).		For guitar tablature, a compact written form of the dot names is needed. A dot in the low kite is indicated by one, two or three commas (the actual punctuation mark ","). The comma was chosen because of its compact shape, tight kerning, and tail (a period would be too easy to miss). Also, it literally sits low on the line. For similar reasons, a high dot is indicated by one, two or three apostrophes. (Or an apostrophe, a quote mark, and a quote mark plus an apostrophe.) For the mid dot, there is unfortunately no obvious punctuation mark. A hyphen would tend to be obscured by the lines on the tablature staff. The best ASCII option is a tilde, unfortunately not at all compact. The most dot-like Unicode characters are the Subscripted Letter O ₒ (U+2092), the Ring Point ⸰ (U+2E30), and the degree sign ° (U+00B0). Other possibilities for the low dot are the Tifinagh Letter Ya ⴰ (U+2D30) and the Combining Square Below ̻ (U+033B).

	The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot, zero, one, two or three frets:		The specific fret is indicated by how far it is from a dot, zero, one, two or three frets:
	{\| class="wikitable right-1 center-2 ~~right~~-3 ~~right~~-4 left-5 left-6"		{\| class="wikitable right-1 center-2 center-3 center-4 left-5 left-6"
	\|+		\|+
	!fret		!fret

TallKite at 06:24, 10 June 2021

2021-06-10T06:24:47Z

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