Help:Here-links - Revision history

ArrowHead294 at 17:21, 20 September 2025

2025-09-20T17:21:15Z

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	'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" ~~is not acceptable~~, because		'''Links''' should have meaningful text. Do not just leave links saying something like "here", because
	* it loses every information when the containing page is printed out;		* It loses every information when the containing page is printed out;
	* it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "…what are your pointing to…", "…what's the name of this ''thing''…");		* It reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "…what are your pointing to…", "…what's the name of this ''thing''…");
	* ~~there~~ is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?);		* There is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?);
	* it's psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology.		* It's psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology.


	== Bad text ==		== Bad text ==
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	To find a good text for your link, you have to think a bit about your text, sometimes, you have to rewrite a section. If nothing helps, add a section that explicitly prepares for a list, make this list typographically obvious and use the page title of the link targets (there are helpful add-ons for browsers).		To find a good text for your link, you have to think a bit about your text, sometimes, you have to rewrite a section. If nothing helps, add a section that explicitly prepares for a list, make this list typographically obvious and use the page title of the link targets (there are helpful add-ons for browsers).

	''~~todo~~: add realistic examples''		''Todo: add realistic examples''

	The best solution is when the text in the referring page and title of the target are identical. Most wikis have great support for this kind of linking.		The best solution is when the text in the referring page and title of the target are identical. Most wikis have great support for this kind of linking.
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	…there are a lot of articles about this issue:		…there are a lot of articles about this issue:

	* ~~[[Wikipedia:~~ WP:EASTER]]		* {{w\|WP:EASTER}}
	* [https://webaccess.berkeley.edu/ask-pecan/click-here What’s wrong with using "Click Here" links? \| Web Access]		* [https://webaccess.berkeley.edu/ask-pecan/click-here What’s wrong with using "Click Here" links? \| Web Access]
	* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]		* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]

Fredg999: Fix double redirect

2025-04-06T15:38:49Z

Fix double redirect

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	== See also ==		== See also ==
	* [[Help]]		* [[Help:Introduction]]
	* [[Help:Editing]]		* [[Help:Editing]]

Fredg999 category edits: Categories

2023-03-09T05:28:25Z

FloraC at 11:52, 10 February 2023

2023-02-10T11:52:43Z

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	'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable		'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable, because
	* it loses every information when the containing page is printed out		* it loses every information when the containing page is printed out;
	* it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "~~...what~~ are your pointing ~~to...~~", "~~...what~~'s the name of this ''thing''~~...~~")		* it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "…what are your pointing to…", "…what's the name of this ''thing''…");
	* there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?)		* there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?);
	* it's psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology		* it's psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology.

	== Bad text ==		== Bad text ==
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	== Further reading ==		== Further reading ==
	~~...there~~ are a lot of articles about this issue		…there are a lot of articles about this issue:

			* [[Wikipedia: WP:EASTER]]
	* [https://webaccess.berkeley.edu/ask-pecan/click-here What’s wrong with using "Click Here" links? \| Web Access]		* [https://webaccess.berkeley.edu/ask-pecan/click-here What’s wrong with using "Click Here" links? \| Web Access]
	* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]		* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]

Xenwolf: added one more drawback; added rule of thumb for wiki

2020-10-17T17:15:48Z

added one more drawback; added rule of thumb for wiki

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	'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable		'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable
			* it loses every information when the containing page is printed out
	* it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''...")		* it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''...")
	* there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?)		* there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?)
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	== Bad text ==		== Bad text ==
	* here		* <s>here</s>
	* click here		* <s>click here</s>

	== Good text ==		== Good text ==
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	''todo: add realistic examples''		''todo: add realistic examples''

			The best solution is when the text in the referring page and title of the target are identical. Most wikis have great support for this kind of linking.

	== Further reading ==		== Further reading ==

Xenwolf: added a tiny see also section

2020-06-01T10:44:30Z

added a tiny see also section

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	* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]		* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]
	* [http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/article.php/3478171 HTML Class: Creating Links to Other Pages]		* [http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/article.php/3478171 HTML Class: Creating Links to Other Pages]

			== See also ==
			* [[Help]]
			* [[Help:Editing]]

	[[Category:help]]		[[Category:help]]

Xenwolf: cat sort

2018-10-22T19:27:45Z

cat sort

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	[[Category:link]]		[[Category:link]]
	[[Category:meta]]		[[Category:meta]]
	[[Category:todo:add_examples]]		[[Category:todo:add_examples\|?]]
	[[Category:todo:expand]]		[[Category:todo:expand\|?]]
	[[Category:wiki]]		[[Category:wiki]]

Xenwolf: removed link to scratch project because it's unclear how it relates to an explanation of meaningful link texts

2018-10-14T21:46:49Z

removed link to scratch project because it's unclear how it relates to an explanation of meaningful link texts

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	'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable		'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable

	~~<ul><li>~~it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''..." )~~</li><li>~~there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?)~~</li><li>its~~ psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology~~</li></ul>~~		* it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''...")
			* there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?)
			* it's psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology

	== Bad text ==		== Bad text ==
	~~<ul><li>~~here~~</li><li>click here</li></ul>''todo: add realistic examples''~~		* here
			* click here
	* ~~An example of a table generator for {{SITENAME}} can be found [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/249278782/~~ here].

	== Good text ==		== Good text ==
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	...there are a lot of articles about this issue		...there are a lot of articles about this issue

	~~<ul><li>~~[https://webaccess.berkeley.edu/ask-pecan/click-here What’s wrong with using "Click Here" links? \| Web Access]~~</li><li>~~[https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]~~</li><li>~~[http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/article.php/3478171 HTML Class: Creating Links to Other Pages]~~</li></ul>~~ [[Category:help]]		* [https://webaccess.berkeley.edu/ask-pecan/click-here What’s wrong with using "Click Here" links? \| Web Access]
			* [https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2012/06/links-should-never-say-click-here/ Why Your Links Should Never Say "Click Here" – Smashing Magazine]
			* [http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/article.php/3478171 HTML Class: Creating Links to Other Pages]

			[[Category:help]]
	[[Category:link]]		[[Category:link]]
	[[Category:meta]]		[[Category:meta]]

PiotrGrochowski at 11:33, 14 October 2018

2018-10-14T11:33:17Z

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	'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable		'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable

	<ul><li>it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''..." )</li><li>there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window~~? not to mention that's impossible~~ in touchscreens)</li><li>its psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology</li></ul>		<ul><li>it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''..." )</li><li>there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window, or even long–tap the link in touchscreens?)</li><li>its psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology</li></ul>

	== Bad text ==		== Bad text ==

PiotrGrochowski at 17:17, 30 September 2018

2018-09-30T17:17:20Z

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	'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable		'''Links''' should have meaningful text, something like "here" is not acceptable

	<ul><li>it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''..." )</li><li>there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window?)</li><li>its psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology</li></ul>		<ul><li>it reads bad (How would you teach a child to speak? "...what are your pointing to...", "...what's the name of this ''thing''..." )</li><li>there is no clue about the link target (or do you really want to force your reader to leave the text and read the link URL at the bottom of the browser window? not to mention that's impossible in touchscreens)</li><li>its psychologically/pedagogically bad because you refuse valuable repetition of terminology</li></ul>

	== Bad text ==		== Bad text ==

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	[[Category:~~help]]~~		[[Category:Help]]
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	[[Category:todo:add_examples\|?]]		[[Category:todo:add_examples\|?]]
	[[Category:todo:expand\|?]]		[[Category:todo:expand\|?]]
	~~[[Category:wiki]]~~