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	*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_se6FCh7U Tom Sawyer (intro)] in 19-edo on guitar		*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_se6FCh7U Tom Sawyer (intro)] in 19-edo on guitar
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	~~[[Category:~~Todo:add sound ~~examples]]~~		[[Category:Listen]]

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Bozu: added 2 links

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	* [http://lullabies.co.uk/buy.html Lucy Tuned Lullabies] (buy link but has audio clips to hear free)		* [http://lullabies.co.uk/buy.html Lucy Tuned Lullabies] (buy link but has audio clips to hear free)
	* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJ6GVXWzOI Video about Lucy Tuned Lullabies]		* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJ6GVXWzOI Video about Lucy Tuned Lullabies]
			* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZpq9OGzrS4 Frere Jacques] in 19-edo on guitar

	===Pop/Rock covers===		===Pop/Rock covers===

	*~~''to be expanded''~~		*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_se6FCh7U Tom Sawyer (intro)] in 19-edo on guitar
	[[Category:links]]		[[Category:links]]
	[[Category:Todo:add sound examples]]		[[Category:Todo:add sound examples]]

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2020-05-27T08:01:33Z

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	In addition to actual links; I'd also like this page to be a place where people can post requests (in the comments section) for things they'd ''like'' to hear but aren't necessarily in a position to record. Other artists who are up to the challenge could tackle it if they wanted.		In addition to actual links; I'd also like this page to be a place where people can post requests (in the comments section) for things they'd ''like'' to hear but aren't necessarily in a position to record. Other artists who are up to the challenge could tackle it if they wanted.

	=List of pieces=		==List of pieces==

	===Classical===		===Classical===
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	*''to be expanded''		*''to be expanded''
	[[Category:links]]		[[Category:links]]
			[[Category:Todo:add sound examples]]

SyntheticThought: /* List of pieces */

2018-10-08T06:12:26Z

List of pieces

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	* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia
	* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia
	* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/western-art-tradition-historically-tuned Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned] - Johnny Reinhard and friends (Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Ives, more; in Dowland temperament, Werckmeister III, Kirnberger II & III, Vallotti temperament, & extended Pythagorean tuning)		* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/western-art-tradition-historically-tuned Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned] - Johnny Reinhard and friends. Is very good performances of Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Ives, more; in Dowland temperament, Werckmeister III, Kirnberger II & III, Vallotti temperament, & extended Pythagorean tuning)

	===Folk/Traditional===		===Folk/Traditional===

SyntheticThought: /* List of pieces */

2018-10-08T04:42:38Z

List of pieces

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	* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia
	* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia
	* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/western-art-tradition-historically-tuned Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned] - Johnny Reinhard and friends (Beethoven, Bach, Mozart; in Dowland temperament, Werckmeister III, Kirnberger II & III, Vallotti temperament, & extended Pythagorean tuning)		* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/western-art-tradition-historically-tuned Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned] - Johnny Reinhard and friends (Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Ives, more; in Dowland temperament, Werckmeister III, Kirnberger II & III, Vallotti temperament, & extended Pythagorean tuning)

	===Folk/Traditional===		===Folk/Traditional===

SyntheticThought: /* List of pieces */ added Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned - Johnny Reinhard and friends

2018-10-08T04:42:07Z

List of pieces: added Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned - Johnny Reinhard and friends

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	* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia
	* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia
			* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/western-art-tradition-historically-tuned Western Art Tradition Historically Tuned] - Johnny Reinhard and friends (Beethoven, Bach, Mozart; in Dowland temperament, Werckmeister III, Kirnberger II & III, Vallotti temperament, & extended Pythagorean tuning)

	===Folk/Traditional===		===Folk/Traditional===

Mike Battaglia: /* List of pieces */ add categorical experiments

2018-10-05T03:42:53Z

List of pieces: add categorical experiments

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	===Classical===		===Classical===

	~~<ul><li>~~[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia</~~li><~~/~~ul>~~		* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia
			* [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-categorical-experiments Categorical Experiments] - Mike Battaglia

	===Folk/Traditional===		===Folk/Traditional===

	~~<ul><li>~~[http://lullabies.co.uk/buy.html Lucy Tuned Lullabies] (buy link but has audio clips to hear free)		* [http://lullabies.co.uk/buy.html Lucy Tuned Lullabies] (buy link but has audio clips to hear free)
	~~</li><li>~~[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJ6GVXWzOI Video about Lucy Tuned Lullabies]		* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJ6GVXWzOI Video about Lucy Tuned Lullabies]
	~~</li></ul>~~

	===Pop/Rock covers===		===Pop/Rock covers===

	~~<ul><li>~~''to be expanded''~~</li></ul>~~		*''to be expanded''
	[[Category:links]]		[[Category:links]]

SyntheticThought: /* List of pieces */ added 2 links for Lucy Tuned Lullabies

2018-10-05T03:17:49Z

List of pieces: added 2 links for Lucy Tuned Lullabies

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	===Folk/Traditional===		===Folk/Traditional===

	<ul><li>		<ul><li>[http://lullabies.co.uk/buy.html Lucy Tuned Lullabies] (buy link but has audio clips to hear free)
			</li><li>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJ6GVXWzOI Video about Lucy Tuned Lullabies]
	</li></ul>		</li></ul>

	===Pop/Rock covers===		===Pop/Rock covers===

	<ul><li>''to be expanded''</li></ul> [[Category:links]]		<ul><li>''to be expanded''</li></ul>
			[[Category:links]]

PiotrGrochowski at 07:45, 22 September 2018

2018-09-22T07:45:49Z

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	This is a page where people can post links to familiar pieces that have been retuned to make them xenharmonic (as opposed to completely ''original'' xenharmonic compositions). Retuning existing pieces can make xenharmony much more accessible since many pieces remain recognizable even in different tunings, making it possible to relate the "typical" Western (meantone/12edo) melodies and harmonies to the xen ones they are mapped onto.		This is a page where people can post links to familiar pieces that have been retuned to make them xenharmonic (as opposed to completely ''original'' xenharmonic compositions). Retuning existing pieces can make xenharmony much more accessible since many pieces remain recognizable even in different tunings, making it possible to relate the "typical" Western (meantone/12edo) melodies and harmonies to [[The Xen\|the xen]] ones they are mapped onto.

	Is it easier to write a xen piece from scratch or to convert an existing piece into a xen tuning? The answer is probably "it depends", especially depending on the tuning being used and how closely related it is to meantone (or 12edo). Converting a pop song into Bohlen-Pierce, while still having it being recognizable as its original self, is probably very difficult, even more so than writing an original Bohlen-Pierce piece (where there are fewer rules and you don't have to worry about it sounding like anything else). But going from 12edo to 31edo could be very easy depending on the style of music. In the case of classical pieces, 31edo is actually closer to what these works were originally performed in anyway; so I would not consider 31edo Baroque or classical pieces to be xenharmonic enough for this list. But modern pop/rock tunes translated into 31edo might still qualify, given 31edo's distinctly more sedate sound which doesn't adapt as easily to some styles of pop, and the flat fifths which make "power chords" not sound as good, making this more of a challenge.		Is it easier to write a xen piece from scratch or to convert an existing piece into a xen tuning? The answer is probably "it depends", especially depending on the tuning being used and how closely related it is to meantone (or 12edo). Converting a pop song into Bohlen-Pierce, while still having it being recognizable as its original self, is probably very difficult, even more so than writing an original Bohlen-Pierce piece (where there are fewer rules and you don't have to worry about it sounding like anything else). But going from 12edo to 31edo could be very easy depending on the style of music. In the case of classical pieces, 31edo is actually closer to what these works were originally performed in anyway; so I would not consider 31edo Baroque or classical pieces to be xenharmonic enough for this list. But modern pop/rock tunes translated into 31edo might still qualify, given 31edo's distinctly more sedate sound which doesn't adapt as easily to some styles of pop, and the flat fifths which make "power chords" not sound as good, making this more of a challenge.

Wikispaces>FREEZE at 00:00, 17 July 2018

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	~~<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2>~~		This is a page where people can post links to familiar pieces that have been retuned to make them xenharmonic (as opposed to completely ''original'' xenharmonic compositions). Retuning existing pieces can make xenharmony much more accessible since many pieces remain recognizable even in different tunings, making it possible to relate the "typical" Western (meantone/12edo) melodies and harmonies to the xen ones they are mapped onto.
	~~This is an imported revision from Wikispaces. The revision metadata is included below for reference:<br>~~
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	Is it easier to write a xen piece from scratch or to convert an existing piece into a xen tuning? The answer is probably "it depends", especially depending on the tuning being used and how closely related it is to meantone (or 12edo). Converting a pop song into Bohlen-Pierce, while still having it being recognizable as its original self, is probably very difficult, even more so than writing an original Bohlen-Pierce piece (where there are fewer rules and you don't have to worry about it sounding like anything else). But going from 12edo to 31edo could be very easy depending on the style of music. In the case of classical pieces, 31edo is actually closer to what these works were originally performed in anyway; so I would not consider 31edo Baroque or classical pieces to be xenharmonic enough for this list. But modern pop/rock tunes translated into 31edo might still qualify, given 31edo's distinctly more sedate sound which doesn't adapt as easily to some styles of pop, and the flat fifths which make "power chords" not sound as good, making this more of a challenge.		Is it easier to write a xen piece from scratch or to convert an existing piece into a xen tuning? The answer is probably "it depends", especially depending on the tuning being used and how closely related it is to meantone (or 12edo). Converting a pop song into Bohlen-Pierce, while still having it being recognizable as its original self, is probably very difficult, even more so than writing an original Bohlen-Pierce piece (where there are fewer rules and you don't have to worry about it sounding like anything else). But going from 12edo to 31edo could be very easy depending on the style of music. In the case of classical pieces, 31edo is actually closer to what these works were originally performed in anyway; so I would not consider 31edo Baroque or classical pieces to be xenharmonic enough for this list. But modern pop/rock tunes translated into 31edo might still qualify, given 31edo's distinctly more sedate sound which doesn't adapt as easily to some styles of pop, and the flat fifths which make "power chords" not sound as good, making this more of a challenge.

	The most famous examples are probably the [[https://www.prismnet.com/~hmiller/music/warped-canon.html\|warped canons]], but there are other examples as well; Mike Battaglia has rearranged a number of common-practice works into mavila (specifically, [[9edo]]); see for example his version of [[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo\|Fur Elise]]. Both of these are classical pieces, but I'd also be interested in seeing if anyone has ever tried covering folk or pop tunes in xenharmonic styles.		The most famous examples are probably the [https://www.prismnet.com/~hmiller/music/warped-canon.html warped canons], but there are other examples as well; Mike Battaglia has rearranged a number of common-practice works into mavila (specifically, [[9edo\|9edo]]); see for example his version of [https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Fur Elise]. Both of these are classical pieces, but I'd also be interested in seeing if anyone has ever tried covering folk or pop tunes in xenharmonic styles.

	In addition to actual links; I'd also like this page to be a place where people can post requests (in the comments section) for things they'd //like// to hear but aren't necessarily in a position to record. Other artists who are up to the challenge could tackle it if they wanted.		In addition to actual links; I'd also like this page to be a place where people can post requests (in the comments section) for things they'd ''like'' to hear but aren't necessarily in a position to record. Other artists who are up to the challenge could tackle it if they wanted.

	=List of pieces=		=List of pieces=

	===Classical===		===Classical===

	* [[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo\|Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)]] - Mike Battaglia		<ul><li>[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)] - Mike Battaglia</li></ul>

	===Folk/Traditional===		===Folk/Traditional===

	*		<ul><li>

	~~===Pop~~/~~Rock covers===~~		</li></ul>

	* //to be expanded//</pre></div>		===Pop/Rock covers===
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	~~<br />~~
	Is it easier to write a xen piece from scratch or to convert an existing piece into a xen tuning? The answer is probably &quot;it depends&quot;, especially depending on the tuning being used and how closely related it is to meantone (or 12edo). Converting a pop song into Bohlen-Pierce, while still having it being recognizable as its original self, is probably very difficult, even more so than writing an original Bohlen-Pierce piece (where there are fewer rules and you don't have to worry about it sounding like anything else). But going from 12edo to 31edo could be very easy depending on the style of music. In the case of classical pieces, 31edo is actually closer to what these works were originally performed in anyway; so I would not consider 31edo Baroque or classical pieces to be xenharmonic enough for this list. But modern pop/rock tunes translated into 31edo might still qualify, given 31edo's distinctly more sedate sound which doesn't adapt as easily to some styles of pop, and the flat fifths which make &quot;power chords&quot; not sound as good, making this more of a challenge. <br />
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	The most famous examples are probably the <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="https://www.prismnet.com/~hmiller/music/warped-canon.html" rel="nofollow">warped canons</a>, but there are other examples as well; Mike Battaglia has rearranged a number of common-practice works into mavila (specifically, <a class="wiki_link" href="/9edo">9edo</a>); see for example his version of <a class=~~"wiki_link_ext" href~~=~~"https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo" rel~~=~~"nofollow">Fur Elise</a>. Both of these are classical pieces, but I'd also be interested in seeing if anyone has ever tried covering folk or pop tunes in xenharmonic styles.<br />~~
	~~<br />~~
	~~In addition to actual links; I~~'~~d also like this page~~ to be ~~a place where people can post requests (in the comments section) for things they~~'~~d <em>like</em> to hear but aren~~'~~t necessarily in a position to record. Other artists who are up to the challenge could tackle it if they wanted.<br />~~
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	<ul><li><a class="wiki_link_ext" href="https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/the-mavila-experiments-fur-elise-9-edo" rel="nofollow">Mavila Experiments: Fur Elise (9EDO)</a> - Mike Battaglia</li~~></ul><br />~~
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