Bowed strings - Revision history

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Music */ Add 19th Century, starting with Franz Schubert's ''Sonata for arpeggione and fortepiano in a minor D821'' (1824) ― performed by Nicolas Deletaille, arpeggione (with movable fretlets) and Alain Roudier, fortepiano (2012)

2026-03-09T18:09:27Z

Music: Add 19th Century, starting with Franz Schubert's ''Sonata for arpeggione and fortepiano in a minor D821'' (1824) ― performed by Nicolas Deletaille, arpeggione (with movable fretlets) and Alain Roudier, fortepiano (2012)

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	== Music ==		== Music ==
	Most (if not all) of [[Ben Johnston]]'s string quartets are written for bowed strings in [[just intonation]].		Most (if not all) of [[Ben Johnston]]'s string quartets are written for bowed strings in [[just intonation]].

			=== 19th Century ===
			; {{W\|Franz Schubert}}
			* ''Sonata for arpeggione and fortepiano in a minor D821'' (1824) ― performed by Nicolas Deletaille, arpeggione (with movable fretlets) and Alain Roudier, fortepiano (2012)
			** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do9UgdfwM5Q 1. Allegro moderato]
			** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRFQ85SU_qs 2. Adagio & 3. Allegretto]

	Many more examples could be added here.		Many more examples could be added here.

Lucius Chiaraviglio: Elevate Bowed fretted strings in section heirarchy; add some more bowed fretted instruments

2024-09-28T10:08:41Z

Elevate Bowed fretted strings in section heirarchy; add some more bowed fretted instruments

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	Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.		Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.

	=== Bowed fretted strings ===		== Bowed fretted strings ==
	The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viol viol family] (viola da gamba, some types of violone, etc.) of the Renaissance and Baroque eras consisted of various sizes of bowed fretted instruments. The frets were tied on lengths of gut, which could be moved to adjust for temperament, with the provision of split frets being possible to enable playing distinct sharps and flats.		The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viol viol family] (viola da gamba, some types of violone, baryton, etc.) of the Renaissance and Baroque eras consisted of various sizes of bowed fretted instruments. The frets were tied on lengths of gut, which could be moved to adjust for temperament, with the provision of split frets being possible to enable playing distinct sharps and flats. The arpeggione is a Nineteenth Century instrument made according to a similar idea, and experimental fretted bowed instruments have been made in modern times ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GuitarViol GuitarViol], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA9c2GTn0h4&list=WL&index=34&t=0s fretted violin], etc.), although most often not with movable frets.

	== Music ==		== Music ==

Lucius Chiaraviglio: /* Techniques */ Add bowed fretted strings, with movable frets

2024-09-28T09:54:59Z

Techniques: Add bowed fretted strings, with movable frets

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	=== Fingerboard marking ===		=== Fingerboard marking ===
	Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.		Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.

			=== Bowed fretted strings ===
			The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viol viol family] (viola da gamba, some types of violone, etc.) of the Renaissance and Baroque eras consisted of various sizes of bowed fretted instruments. The frets were tied on lengths of gut, which could be moved to adjust for temperament, with the provision of split frets being possible to enable playing distinct sharps and flats.

	== Music ==		== Music ==

Fredg999: Fix typo

2023-03-07T06:46:23Z

Fix typo

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Fredg999: Cleanup, add music section

2023-03-07T06:46:10Z

Cleanup, add music section

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	Bowed string instruments (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. . Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.		'''Bowed string instruments''' (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.

	1. Scordatura: If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments "ring" for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.		== Techniques ==
			=== Scordatura ===
			If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments "ring" for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.

	2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.		=== Fingerboard marking ===
			Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.

			== Music ==
			Most (if not all) of [[Ben Johnston]]'s string quartets are written for bowed strings in [[just intonation]].

			Many more examples could be added here.

	[[Category:Instruments]]		[[Category:Instruments]]
			{{todo\|expand\|verify}}

Fredg999 category edits: Categories

2023-01-20T22:25:11Z

Fredg999: Fredg999 moved page Microtonal bowed strings to Bowed strings: Xen Wiki implies microtonal

2022-10-08T04:20:51Z

Fredg999 moved page Microtonal bowed strings to Bowed strings: Xen Wiki implies microtonal

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Xenwolf: Xenwolf moved page MicrotonalBowedStrings to Microtonal bowed strings

2021-01-13T08:11:29Z

Xenwolf moved page MicrotonalBowedStrings to Microtonal bowed strings

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Wikispaces>FREEZE at 00:00, 17 July 2018

2018-07-17T00:00:00Z

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	~~<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2>~~		Bowed string instruments (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. . Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.
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	<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Bowed string instruments (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. . Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.

	1. Scordatura: If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments "ring" for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.		1. Scordatura: If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments "ring" for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.
	2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.</pre></div>
	~~<h4>Original HTML content:</h4>~~		2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.
	<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>MicrotonalBowedStrings</title></head><body>Bowed string instruments (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. . Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.<br />
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	1. Scordatura: If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments &quot;ring&quot; for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.<br />
	2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.~~</body></html></pre></div>~~

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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Bowed string instruments (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. . Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.

1. Scordatura: If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments "ring" for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.
2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>MicrotonalBowedStrings</title></head><body>Bowed string instruments (notably violin/viola/cello/bass) can easily and almost unlimitedly play microtonal music, and in fact are easier to retrofit due to the lack of frets. . Unfortunately, most trained players of the instruments are going to be finnicky about playing in any way other than the way they're used to, thanks to the pedagogy. There are two important tools in making microtonal string music work, scordatura and fingerboard marking.<br />
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1. Scordatura: If you're going to be using the traditional notation system or a variant of it, specify that the strings be tuned to the scale system in question's versions of A, D G, etc. to give the players familiar notational home bases to work from. Try to make the scordatura somewhat distant from the correct pitches for maximum effect, however, because broken-in string instruments &quot;ring&quot; for the notes they play often (in 12), and the scordatura will have the effect of disorienting the string player's instinctual seeking of the resonance.<br />
2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.</body></html></pre></div>

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	2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.		2. Fingerboard marking: Tapes are the most awesome (because they're color codable), but chalk works too. Players respond to them well because most of them learned to play with tapes in elementary school. Provide tape to the players, debunking any myths that it will affect the sound or damage the instrument. If it does leave some sticky residue, tell them to wipe it off and suck it up. If you don't trust your string players' ears, or the part is technically challenging, color coded tapes are plainly the easiest way to get it in tune fast.

			[[Category:Instruments]]