Anthill comma - Revision history

Aura at 18:09, 12 September 2025

2025-09-12T18:09:54Z

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	'''532400/531441''', the '''anthill comma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] comma that splits the [[ptolemisma]] into two [[rastma]]s and equates a stack of two [[syntonic comma]]s with [[1331/1296]], the Alpharabian parachromatic semilimma. In addition, it can be identified as the interval separating an octave-reduced stack of two [[729/484]] Alphrabian wide fifths from a [[25/22]] ptolemismic whole tone, and, it is the sum of the [[wizardharry comma]] and the [[parimo]].		'''532400/531441''', the '''anthill comma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] comma that splits the [[ptolemisma]] into two [[rastma]]s, equates a stack of three instances of [[88/81]] with [[32/25]], and equates a stack of two [[syntonic comma]]s with [[1331/1296]], the Alpharabian parachromatic semilimma. In addition, it can be identified as the interval separating an octave-reduced stack of two [[729/484]] Alphrabian wide fifths from a [[25/22]] ptolemismic whole tone, and, it is the sum of the [[wizardharry comma]] and the [[parimo]].

	== Etymology ==		== Etymology ==

Aura: /* Etymology */fixed missing word

2025-06-09T09:24:10Z

Etymology: fixed missing word

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	== Etymology ==		== Etymology ==
	[[Budjarn Lambeth]] named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon), a paper about ant colonies. This referenced the comma’s ratio: 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805.		[[Budjarn Lambeth]] named the "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon), a paper about ant colonies. This referenced the comma’s ratio: 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805.

	XA [[Discord]] user Neutraldown also proposed the name "tetracot schisma" for this comma, because it is in the [[schisma]] size range and is [[tempered out]] by [[tetracot]] temperament. This deliberately parallels the name of the [[tetracot kleisma]].		XA [[Discord]] user Neutraldown also proposed the name "tetracot schisma" for this comma, because it is in the [[schisma]] size range and is [[tempered out]] by [[tetracot]] temperament. This deliberately parallels the name of the [[tetracot kleisma]].

Aura: fixed typo

2025-04-20T20:00:10Z

fixed typo

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	== Etymology ==		== Etymology ==
	[[Budjarn Lambeth]] named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon), a paper about ~~any~~ colonies. This referenced the comma’s ratio: 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805.		[[Budjarn Lambeth]] named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon), a paper about ant colonies. This referenced the comma’s ratio: 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805.

	XA [[Discord]] user Neutraldown also proposed the name "tetracot schisma" for this comma, because it is in the [[schisma]] size range and is [[tempered out]] by [[tetracot]] temperament. This deliberately parallels the name of the [[tetracot kleisma]].		XA [[Discord]] user Neutraldown also proposed the name "tetracot schisma" for this comma, because it is in the [[schisma]] size range and is [[tempered out]] by [[tetracot]] temperament. This deliberately parallels the name of the [[tetracot kleisma]].

BudjarnLambeth: Reverted

2025-04-15T08:32:05Z

Reverted

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	{{Infobox Interval		{{Infobox Interval
	\| Ratio = 532400/531441		\| Ratio = 532400/531441
	\| Name = ~~Tetracot~~ schisma		\| Name = anthill comma, tetracot schisma
	\| Color name = s1o<sup>3</sup>yy1, satrilo-ayoyo 1sn		\| Color name = s1o<sup>3</sup>yy1, satrilo-ayoyo 1sn
	\| Comma = yes		\| Comma = yes
	}}		}}

	'''532400/531441''', the '''~~tetracot schisma~~''', is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] comma that splits the [[ptolemisma]] into two [[rastma]]s and equates a stack of two [[syntonic comma]]s with [[1331/1296]], the Alpharabian parachromatic semilimma. In addition, it can be identified as the interval separating an octave-reduced stack of two [[729/484]] Alphrabian wide fifths from a [[25/22]] ptolemismic whole tone, and, it is the sum of the [[wizardharry comma]] and the [[parimo]].		'''532400/531441''', the '''anthill comma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] comma that splits the [[ptolemisma]] into two [[rastma]]s and equates a stack of two [[syntonic comma]]s with [[1331/1296]], the Alpharabian parachromatic semilimma. In addition, it can be identified as the interval separating an octave-reduced stack of two [[729/484]] Alphrabian wide fifths from a [[25/22]] ptolemismic whole tone, and, it is the sum of the [[wizardharry comma]] and the [[parimo]].

	== Etymology ==		== Etymology ==
	~~The tetracot schisma was named by XA Discord user Neutraldown, because it is in the~~ [[~~schisma~~]] ~~size range and is~~ [~~[tempered out]~~] by ~~[[tetracot]] temperament~~. This ~~deliberately parallels~~ the ~~name of the [[tetracot kleisma]]~~.		[[Budjarn Lambeth]] named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon), a paper about any colonies. This referenced the comma’s ratio: 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805.

	~~Previously it was named "anthill comma" after~~ [~~https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.~~] (the ~~paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon, about ant colonies), because 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805. That~~ name ~~is no longer preferred, because~~ "tetracot schisma" is ~~more straightforward~~ and ~~informative~~.		XA [[Discord]] user Neutraldown also proposed the name "tetracot schisma" for this comma, because it is in the [[schisma]] size range and is [[tempered out]] by [[tetracot]] temperament. This deliberately parallels the name of the [[tetracot kleisma]].

	[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]		[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]
	[[Category:Tetracot]]		[[Category:Tetracot]]

BudjarnLambeth: BudjarnLambeth moved page Tetracot schisma to Anthill comma over redirect: Revert

2025-04-15T08:29:15Z

BudjarnLambeth moved page Tetracot schisma to Anthill comma over redirect: Revert

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Neutraldown: add category

2025-04-15T03:52:28Z

add category

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	[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]		[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]
			[[Category:Tetracot]]

BudjarnLambeth: Category

2025-04-15T01:56:44Z

BudjarnLambeth: BudjarnLambeth moved page Anthill comma to Tetracot schisma

2025-04-14T21:23:57Z

BudjarnLambeth moved page Anthill comma to Tetracot schisma

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BudjarnLambeth: Renamed; see Discord

2025-04-14T21:23:36Z

Renamed; see Discord

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	{{Infobox Interval		{{Infobox Interval
	\| Ratio = 532400/531441		\| Ratio = 532400/531441
	\| Name = ~~Anthill comma~~		\| Name = Tetracot schisma
	\| Color name = s1o<sup>3</sup>yy1, satrilo-ayoyo 1sn		\| Color name = s1o<sup>3</sup>yy1, satrilo-ayoyo 1sn
	\| Comma = yes		\| Comma = yes
	}}		}}

	'''532400/531441''', the '''~~anthill comma~~''', is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] comma that splits the [[ptolemisma]] into two [[rastma]]s and equates a stack of two [[syntonic comma]]s with [[1331/1296]], the Alpharabian parachromatic semilimma. In addition, it can be identified as the interval separating an octave-reduced stack of two [[729/484]] Alphrabian wide fifths from a [[25/22]] ptolemismic whole tone, and, it is the sum of the [[wizardharry comma]] and the [[parimo]].		'''532400/531441''', the '''tetracot schisma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma\|unnoticeable]] [[11-limit]] comma that splits the [[ptolemisma]] into two [[rastma]]s and equates a stack of two [[syntonic comma]]s with [[1331/1296]], the Alpharabian parachromatic semilimma. In addition, it can be identified as the interval separating an octave-reduced stack of two [[729/484]] Alphrabian wide fifths from a [[25/22]] ptolemismic whole tone, and, it is the sum of the [[wizardharry comma]] and the [[parimo]].

	== Etymology ==		== Etymology ==
	~~532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805.~~ The ~~comma~~ is ~~named after~~ [~~https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.~~]~~, which~~ is ~~the paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior''~~ by ~~Deborah M~~. ~~Gordon. The paper discusses~~ the ~~emergent top-down and bottom-up behaviour~~ of ~~systems containing a number of individual organisms, and extensively discusses how~~ the ~~behaviour of the ant emerges from the anthill, yet the behaviour of the anthill emerges from the ant, in a kind of self-sustaining loop~~.		The tetracot schisma was named by XA Discord user Neutraldown, because it is in the [[schisma]] size range and is [[tempered out]] by [[tetracot]] temperament. This deliberately parallels the name of the [[tetracot kleisma]].

	~~After~~ [~~[Budjarn Lambeth]~~] ~~coined this name,~~ the name was called out on the XA Discord for its convoluted etymology. Many people in the Discord suggested that names like these which convey no information about a comma’s properties are more hindrance than help to musicians and theorists, and that commas would be better off being referred to by just their [[ratio]] or [[monzo]] instead of by ~~such confusing names~~. ~~In response to the criticism~~, ~~Lambeth decided to retract almost all of his comma names~~, ~~including this one, due to their arbitrary and confusing nature~~. ~~However, one Discord user remarked that there was actually something oddly fitting about “anthill” for this comma~~, and ~~that it would be a shame to see this name go. So, the other commas' names were retracted, but “anthill comma” was kept~~.		Previously it was named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (the paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon, about ant colonies), because 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805. That name is no longer preferred, because "tetracot schisma" is more straightforward and informative.

	[[Category:Commas named for other reasons]]		[[Category:Commas named for other reasons]]

BudjarnLambeth: /* Etymology */

2025-01-17T07:27:52Z

Etymology

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	532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805. The comma is named after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.], which is the paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon. The paper discusses the emergent top-down and bottom-up behaviour of systems containing a number of individual organisms, and extensively discusses how the behaviour of the ant emerges from the anthill, yet the behaviour of the anthill emerges from the ant, in a kind of self-sustaining loop.		532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805. The comma is named after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.], which is the paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon. The paper discusses the emergent top-down and bottom-up behaviour of systems containing a number of individual organisms, and extensively discusses how the behaviour of the ant emerges from the anthill, yet the behaviour of the anthill emerges from the ant, in a kind of self-sustaining loop.

	After [[Budjarn Lambeth]] coined this name, the name was called out on the XA Discord for its convoluted etymology. Many people in the Discord suggested that names like these which convey no information about a comma’s properties are more hindrance than help to musicians and theorists, and that commas would be better off being referred to by just their [[ratio]] or [[monzo]] instead of by such confusing names. In response to the criticism, Lambeth decided to retract almost all of his comma names, including this one, due to their arbitrary and confusing nature. However, one ~~fellow editor who~~ remarked that there was actually something oddly fitting about “anthill” for this comma, and that it would be a shame to see this name go. So, the other commas' names were retracted, but “anthill comma” was kept.		After [[Budjarn Lambeth]] coined this name, the name was called out on the XA Discord for its convoluted etymology. Many people in the Discord suggested that names like these which convey no information about a comma’s properties are more hindrance than help to musicians and theorists, and that commas would be better off being referred to by just their [[ratio]] or [[monzo]] instead of by such confusing names. In response to the criticism, Lambeth decided to retract almost all of his comma names, including this one, due to their arbitrary and confusing nature. However, one Discord user remarked that there was actually something oddly fitting about “anthill” for this comma, and that it would be a shame to see this name go. So, the other commas' names were retracted, but “anthill comma” was kept.

	[[Category:Commas named for other reasons]]		[[Category:Commas named for other reasons]]

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	Previously it was named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (the paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon, about ant colonies), because 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805. That name is no longer preferred, because "tetracot schisma" is more straightforward and informative.		Previously it was named "anthill comma" after [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3949665/ PLoS Biol. 2014 Mar; 12(3): e1001805.] (the paper ''The Ecology of Collective Behavior'' by Deborah M. Gordon, about ant colonies), because 532400 / 531441 = ~1.001805. That name is no longer preferred, because "tetracot schisma" is more straightforward and informative.

	[[Category:Commas named for ~~other reasons~~]]		[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]